Gem Maker | Gem Factory

[TheManuz]

NAME: Gem Maker ELEMENT: {Any} COST: 0 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Each turn generates a quanta matching your mark. 0: Gain {1 quanta of the element}, delay for 2 turns.	NAME: Gem Factory ELEMENT: {any} COST: 0 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Gain {1 quanta of the element} when played. Each turn generates a quanta matching your mark. 0: Gain {1 quanta of the element}, delay for 2 turns.

ART: TheManuz IDEA: TheManuz NOTES: This is a rework of a very old idea of mine (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20265.msg274925#msg274925). I always thought that Pendulums were ok but didn't answer to all quanta needs. This is a different type of pillar, made for giving the right quanta when you need it, but at the cost of time. In-depth explanation: Pillars|Towers produce specific quanta, while Makers|Factories only produce mark quanta. Like all permanents, ability can't be used the turn it comes into play. When you use the ability, you delay the Maker|Factory for 2 turns. Delayed permanents don't produce quanta and can't use abilities. Since the quanta production happens at the end of turn, if you get the specific quanta you will not receive the mark quanta. It's specific quanta vs mark quanta, you can't get both. You can activate a Maker|Factory to get an extra quanta when you can't play a card (effective against denial or as a last resort), since this quanta generation happens in midgame (like Rustler, for example) but this will cost you 2 turns of missing quanta. About implementation: It would be a little strange to manage stacks and delay, it would be best to keep these as separated permanents. The alternative would be keeping a single stack that automatically keeps track of how many are delayed and how many factories could be activated. This solution would be hard to code (i think) but simple to play. This is Zanzarino's field, of course! These are intended to be a serie, one Maker|Factory for each element. All the cards should have the identical mechanic, producing quantum matching your mark and letting you gain specific quanta for a 2 turns delay. Names are from gems and minerals, some matches pillars names. Turquoise Maker Turquoise Factory Sapphire Maker Sapphire Factory Obsidian Maker Obsidian Factory Charoite Maker Charoite Factory Zircon Maker Zircon Factory Amethyst Maker Amethyst Factory Ruby Maker Ruby Factory Amber Maker Amber Factory Emerald Maker Emerald Factory Diamond Maker Diamond Factory Chrysoberyl Maker Chrysoberyl Factory Aquamarine Maker Aquamarine Factory EDIT: Changed Ivory Maker | Ivory Factory to Charoite Maker | Charoite Factory (since Charoite is a natural violet gemstone). Credits to Naesala for Turquoise Maker | Turquoise Factory. Credits to joebob777 for Amber Maker | Amber Factory. Some use cases: Mono deck that wants to use unstable gases. This deck only needs 6 quanta. Using a mark will result in a waste of quanta after round 6. Pendulums and Novas are even worse when it comes to wasted quanta! Using a Ruby Maker will allow the player to gain quanta when needed, at the cost of 2 , paid in the next 2 turns. If the player can afford to keep the unstable gases untouched until the final blow, he can gain 6 without paying anything extra. With Ruby Factory there isn't even the need to activate the ability (and the delay), since the is gained when the card is played. Mono deck that wants to use Lycanthropy. Mono deck that evolves Graboids. In general, decks that needs only a little splash of another element without damaging deck stability. You've got only 8 and you need another to cast Fractal and deliver the final blow. Simply activate your Turquoise Maker, gain and deliver PWNING! SERIES:

[OldTrees]

For reference and discussion: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16622.0.html
Like Temples, it might be wise not to have them stack.

This card gives a limited 2 Mark quanta -> 1 Elemental conversion.
2 : Gain [old version]
1: Gain and delay 1 turn [less useful intermediate]
0: Gain and delay 2 turns [current version]

[TheManuz]

This card gives a limited 2 Mark quanta -> 1 Elemental conversion.
2 : Gain [old version]
1: Gain and delay 1 turn [less useful intermediate]
0: Gain and delay 2 turns [current version]

I'm sorry, i didn't understand well what are you saying here. 

I will read the discussion on Temples soon, now i'm at work and i can't!
However, i already knew the Temples, and i feel that Maker|Factory answers to a different quanta need.
It's more oriented to a mono deck who needs a very little splash of quanta without (almost) losing speed.
Temples are like pillars since they produce specific quanta. They also have an ability, so they must cost a little more than the standard pillar.
Maker|Factory is less than pillar, since it doesn't produce specific quanta. So i can add the ability without changing the cost of the card.
It's ability is paid in the future, so there is a gain now and a "loss" in the next 2 turns.

[OldTrees]

The quoted section was me describing the card's conversion ability and relating it to a description of the old ability.

More description:
Maker|Factories are Mark Pillars that cost 0|-1 and have a 2 Mark quanta -> 1 elemental quanta conversion
(Quanta Division: Factories + Mark - Conversion, Conversion) Supports drastically different quanta demands like UG.
Temple|Shrines are Elemental Pillars that cost 1|0 and have a 2 elemental quanta -> 2 mark quanta conversion
(Quanta Division: Temples - Conversion, Mark + Conversion) Supports moderately different quanta demands.

I really like the idea of a Mark pillar being used to add an effect and still keeping the cost 0 unupped.

[TheManuz]

The quoted section was me describing the card's conversion ability and relating it to a description of the old ability.

More description:
Maker|Factories are Mark Pillars that cost 0|-1 and have a 2 Mark quanta -> 1 elemental quanta conversion
(Quanta Division: Factories + Mark - Conversion, Conversion) Supports drastically different quanta demands like UG.
Temple|Shrines are Elemental Pillars that cost 1|0 and have a 2 elemental quanta -> 2 mark quanta conversion
(Quanta Division: Temples - Conversion, Mark + Conversion) Supports moderately different quanta demands.

I really like the idea of a Mark pillar being used to add an effect and still keeping the cost 0 unupped.

Thanks, do you think it's balanced?
I honestly think it is, but i want to be sure that i'm not missing anything.
I may also be biased, so i'd like to have your opinion.

I was also thinking about specifying that the ability can be used when it comes into play (would add it into notes).

[The_Mormegil]

I support this.

[OldTrees]

I do believe it is balanced. Depending on the multielement deck, people will use Pendulum, Factories or Both.

[TheManuz]

Submitted to crucible, changed card art (new picture and new entropy border), added Ruby and Emerald Factories.
I'd like some more feedbacks from other users. I hope this card gets noticed!

[Naesala]

Love the idea.

[Xenocidius]

CURATOR COMMENT

Although this card qualifies for Crucible, please link the content in the SERIES box or remove it.

[TheManuz]

Done!

[OldTrees]

Once this gets to the forge, you might want to add a gif image cycling through the 12 variants for increased forge clarity. For now, since it is in the Crucible, the Entropy variant should get dominant position.