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Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg399576#msg399576
« on: September 26, 2011, 06:09:53 am »
NAME:
Gravitational Barrier
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Physical damage is reduced by N. N is the collective HP of your creatures divided by 30.
NAME:
Gravitational Barrier
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Physical damage is reduced by N. N is the collective HP of your creatures divided by 25.
ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
It occurred to me that Gravity needs a new shield, and that it should take advantage of the high HP of Gravity creatures.
Similar to Hope, this can block a lot of damage. It also makes Pharaoh slightly more useful.
N is rounded down.
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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg399579#msg399579
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2011, 06:18:07 am »
Will block less damage than hope, but will not eat up creature space. I dunno it it's OP, but I like the concept!
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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg399959#msg399959
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 02:31:41 am »
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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg399965#msg399965
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 02:38:00 am »
2 elite armagios+upgraded gravitational barrier=3 shield. It's not as OP as it looks.
2 flying titans+upgraded gravitational barrier=4 shield. Not too bad.

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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg399979#msg399979
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 03:50:10 am »
I think 30 might be a bit high, but that's just me. 25 feels better. also, how does this do for rounding?
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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg399980#msg399980
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 03:51:34 am »
Rounds down. Maybe 25 would be better, and it should probably be round up.
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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg400020#msg400020
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 05:22:12 am »
Rounds down. Maybe 25 would be better, and it should probably be round up.
I don't know about 25. with 25, two flying titans would make a shield of 5 as opposed to a shield of 4 when it was 30. I still prefer 30 over 25.

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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg400115#msg400115
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2011, 01:45:05 pm »
How about changing it so unupgraded is 30 and upgraded is 25, and drop the automatic +1?
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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg400120#msg400120
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2011, 02:02:51 pm »
Love the idea!  I think it's actually weaker than Hope, but that might be okay.  In Light, for instance, one RoL will give +1 to Hope, but with this shield, any creature other than a flying Titan or a ridiculously buffed creature is going to give +1 or less to this shield.

The shield is definitely balanced as is, and it might see some use if it were coded.  I do like Naesala's post above me, though, because that keeps the card at about the same power level, but differentiates it a little more from Hope.

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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg400123#msg400123
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2011, 02:09:16 pm »
I made a little table to see the values
Total
HP
Every 30
rounded down
Every 30
rounded up
Every 25
rounded down
Every 25
rounded up
00000
100101
250111
301112
401212
501222
602223
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752333
903334
1003444
1204445
1254555
1505566
30010101212
As a general rule, i'm for rounding up. This way, if you have a single creature, even with 1 HP, you get 1 point of shielding.
I'm also seeing that there is not much difference between steps of 30 or steps of 50.
The last row shows a situation with 6 Titans in play.

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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg400191#msg400191
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2011, 04:27:37 pm »
Based on Manuz's chart I'd like to say that rounding up with the unupgraded using 30 and the upgraded using 25 seems the best option
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Re: Gravitational Barrier | Gravitational Barrier https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31590.msg400356#msg400356
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2011, 11:17:38 pm »
It's like the gravity hope card.

 

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