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Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg393596#msg393596
« on: September 15, 2011, 09:28:38 am »
NAME:
Collapse
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Destroy up to 2 permanents in the target cluster.
NAME:
Implosion
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Destroy up to 2 permanents in the target cluster.
ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
Sort of like Earthquake, but can be used on any permanent. With the new shards coming out as stacking permanents, I thought something like this would work.
Can destroy 2 pillars, pendulums, Bone Wall shields and shards. Anything else it just destroys one.
SERIES:
Permanent Control and Protection (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33903)
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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg393617#msg393617
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 11:24:09 am »
So... it's a nerfed Earthquake?
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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg393660#msg393660
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 03:00:40 pm »
So... it's a nerfed Earthquake?
if you use it on pillars yes, but its more versatile as it can be used on permanents, which earthquake cannot.
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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg393900#msg393900
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 02:39:11 am »
Yep, it's much more versatile than Earthquake, but less powerful when used on pillars/pendulums.
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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg395460#msg395460
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 10:07:14 am »
Small bump. With the release of Beta and a first look at stackable shards, this becomes a lot more interesting. Thoughts?
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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg395462#msg395462
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 10:10:26 am »
 :gravity doesn't have a quanta-dump yet. It could spend all your :gravity quanta, and destroy quanta / 5 permanents in the stack. Or any other number you care to come up with.

Differentiates it a bit further from relatively cheap, single-use Steal and Explosion.

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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg395695#msg395695
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 07:05:11 pm »
:gravity doesn't have a quanta-dump yet. It could spend all your :gravity quanta, and destroy quanta / 5 permanents in the stack. Or any other number you care to come up with.

Differentiates it a bit further from relatively cheap, single-use Steal and Explosion.
Maybe you can halve the stack, rounded down?
So, if you hit a fresh-casted bone wall (7 counters) it drops to 3 counters.
On a single permanent (or a stack made of 2) it works like an overpriced explosion.

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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg398851#msg398851
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 01:35:46 am »
I love this idea. It not only gives the Gravity element a much-needed buff, but it also makes sense thematically -- something that a lot of cards I've seen have trouble with. I'm changing my votes to include this one.

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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg405803#msg405803
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 09:37:46 am »
With the nerf of Deflagration | Explosion, I gave it a cost increase. Discuss.
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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg405809#msg405809
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 09:47:00 am »
It's a very nice card.  I don't know what you costed it at before, but it seems okay, although maybe +1 cost on this would be better.  I'd be very scared of decks packing this and black hole/amber nymph :p  Imagine this on pillars and amber nymph locking the remaining quanta down... ugh :p 

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Re: Collapse | Implosion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30993.msg405821#msg405821
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2011, 10:39:17 am »
Love it, just like it is now. More profittable than explition/deflag when used in 2 perms, but less than them using it in a single thing.
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