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Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg381248#msg381248
« on: August 17, 2011, 03:05:51 pm »
:time How to deck yourself out (or kill FG's) [Fast-draw FG killer] :aether


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This was first posted on this topic: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27783.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27783.0.html)

It's a good enough deck so I've decided to make a separate thread and try to get it archived. What do you think?

Strategy!

1. Play pillars & pends A.S.A.P
2. Draw FAST
3. Chain phase shields when on low health. (They are targeted below hour-glasses so won't get blown up unless they have ALOT of PC)
4. Fractal GotP for the win
5. Don't deck-out! You can use eternity for this or just stop drawing when low on cards (preferable though not always possible)

Skip Guide:

Incarnate (3-1) You can lose with an unlucky start.

Miracle (2-1) Has miracle's so you have to suddenly fractal for the kill. Otherwise miracle comes out and you have to take out all that hp again. You can lose by miscalculating when to sudden-fractal or a unlucky start.

Paradox (4-1) You can lose with an unlucky start.

Lionheart (1-1) Deck him out. It's really hard to do that 200 damage, so simply stall untill you win. You can lose from the AI having a clogged hand (virtually impossible) and rewinding a creature repetively. (unlikely, AI normally quints everything) You could also lose from being rushed.

Seism (1-4) He has sooo many quick-sands. Try not to let your pendulums get blown up. Quit if you lose many pendulums.

Chaos Lord (0-6) Lucky mutations, early discords, unstoppables before you get an eternity or a bad draw can kill you. I've been really unlucky against him in not winning any but don't expect to win all of them.

Destiny (0-1) Only played one game :( Probably quite similar to Chaos Lord in the luck-based-ness.

Neptune (0-2) Neptune is really tricky. If you get an early eternity then you can reverse dragons to keep them low on quanta, then squids once you fractal to stop them freezing you and to keep them from drawing most of their shockwaves. Late eternity, or pretty much anything they do can, and will, kill you.

Everyone Else- Skip instantly; this makes you fast money as you only play matches you can win.

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  deck     Fast-Draw God-killer (original)   
  players     Djhopper :)   
  version    1.285 
  win-rate     10%   
  $ track ?    disabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    100 
  Score/h     -1158 ~   
  win-loss-(EM)     10-90-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     01:39:58   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  1098   
  min/game     01:00   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%     
     
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  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™4000    wins losses skips EM/Wins
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   -763
   -48000
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   -230
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   -48000
   -54000
   -36000
   -54000
   -43200
   638 ~
   -30857
   -36000
   -240 ~
   -39273
   -72000
   -763
   -48000
   -46286
   -2700
   -48000
   -46286
   -43200
   -24923
   -43200
   -48000
   -54000
   -48000
   -27000   
   -57176
   4257
   -1831
   -230
   2967
   -48000
   -54000
   -36000
   -54000
   -43200
   4091
   -30857
   -36000
   1861
   -39273
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   
   
   
   
     
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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100 game stats. Still feeling quite unlucky looking at other Phase-Shield Stall Decks...

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.0.html
Other decks that stall with phase shields:
Fire lance sudden-killer: 17.02% win-rate
Flay 'em!: 32.65% win-rate (how much difference can a miracle make?)
    Produced  Total Quanta
1. 3+1          4
2. 0+1          5
3. 3+1          9-6(=3)
4. 0+1          4       
5. 3+1          8
6. 0+1          9-6(=3)
    Produced  Total Quanta
1. 2+1          3
2. 0+1          4
3. 2+1          7-6(=1)
4. 0+1          2     
5. 2+1          5
6. 0+1          6-6(=0)


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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg381257#msg381257
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 03:32:34 pm »
Looks pretty similar to IGT (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22028.0.html), cept unupped and less FG card drawing control.
How well does it do?
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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg381488#msg381488
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 01:13:12 am »
This is unupped. I NEED 100 GAME STATS AND WILL SEE IT NOW
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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg381586#msg381586
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 08:42:19 am »
Looks pretty similar to IGT (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22028.0.html), cept unupped and less FG card drawing control.
How well does it do?
For an un-upped deck, very. Shall I start recording some results?
This is unupped. I NEED 100 GAME STATS AND WILL SEE IT NOW
Ok, I'll start recording stats.

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg382051#msg382051
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2011, 09:31:25 am »
Looks real good, but I would add another fractal for if the other gotp get killed.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg382056#msg382056
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2011, 09:57:31 am »
Looks real good, but I would add another fractal for if the other gotp get killed.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Two fractals are enough. You won't get the quanta for a third (try the deck if you don't belive me) and even if you did then you wouldn't need it.

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg382185#msg382185
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2011, 05:58:23 pm »
tried this. its in need of ghosts and i think im just getting unlucky hands

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg382203#msg382203
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2011, 06:26:41 pm »
tried this. its in need of ghosts and i think im just getting unlucky hands
It has ghosts... If you're playing on the real game and imported the deck you might not have realised that they were missing

Unlucky hands are uncommon, but unlucky gods happens regularly: there are many gods that this can't beat. This deck is very efficient, but only when you skip!

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg382349#msg382349
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2011, 12:24:38 am »
except for it being unupped does this even qualify as a different deck than IGT?
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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg383078#msg383078
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 01:55:39 pm »
It´s a bit smaller
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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg383131#msg383131
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 05:17:25 pm »
Not bad at all.

Im using it upped like this:
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I have found it to be FASTER than IGT, with little loss in performance.  In fact, the speed compensates for any loss in winrate.

Thank you for providing yet another FG killer :)

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg383518#msg383518
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2011, 05:16:04 pm »
Not bad at all.

Im using it upped like this:
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I have found it to be FASTER than IGT, with little loss in performance.  In fact, the speed compensates for any loss in winrate.

Thank you for providing yet another FG killer :)
Thanks, hadn't thought about upping it!

except for it being unupped does this even qualify as a different deck than IGT?
Yeah, probably: It plays faster and with much less stall. Though it has many of the same cards it has a very different feel to play with.

 

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