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Seijaku | Seijaku https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301125#msg301125
« on: March 30, 2011, 01:00:53 am »
NAME:
Seijaku
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Permanent (Weapon)
ATK|HP:
4 | 3 when animated.
TEXT:
Weapon - Deal 4 damage at the end of every turn. Has a 30% chance to deal double damage.
NAME:
Seijaku
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Permanent (Weapon)
ATK|HP:
7 | 3 when animated.
TEXT:
Weapon - Deal 7 damage at the end of every turn. Has a 35% chance to deal double damage.
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/45265
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Has the passive skilled Ranged.

Seijaku means Silence. I wanted an original name rather than calling it Shuriken.
SERIES:
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NAME:
Ninjatsu
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Permanent (Weapon)
ATK|HP:
4 | 3 when animated.
TEXT:
Weapon - Deal 4 damage at the end of every turn. Accuracy - this weapon never misses.
NAME:
Ninjatsu
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Weapon
ATK|HP:
7 | 3 when animated.
TEXT:
Weapon - Deal 7 damage at the end of every turn. Accuracy - this weapon never misses.
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/45265
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
A semi-situational weapon that helps to counter shields like Fog Shield, Phase Shield, and Dusk Shield.
SERIES:
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 06:57:07 pm by Zblader »

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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301150#msg301150
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 01:20:00 am »
Ninjatsu doesnt sound a lot like a weapon name.
This would be some sort of a toned down momentum, im not sure if the mechanic is unique enough for the game(considering we have titan, chargers and momentum, which do the same thing and others as well).

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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301152#msg301152
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2011, 01:22:41 am »
Phase Shield makes you shift out of phase, therefore making the opponent miss you. No matter how accurate, I don't think this Ninjatsu can attack something that is out of phase.

However, I think you can give it "Ranged" as a passive ability. That way, it can get past Wings while it is in the weapon slot, just like Eagle's Eye.

Btw, you have this card as a spell. Better change it to a permanent.
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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301157#msg301157
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2011, 01:28:03 am »
Cool idea Zblader :D

Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301158#msg301158
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2011, 01:29:29 am »
It is called Ninjutsu. Although that is a Shuriken...Ninjutsu is the Martial Art used by the Ninja which was made to exploit the weak areas of the body to disable or kill.

As for the weapon, I love it! Although, the unupped should cost 4 and the upped should cost 5 or 6.

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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301159#msg301159
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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301207#msg301207
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2011, 02:02:42 am »
Just to clear things up - I intentionally spelled it Ninjatsu in an attempt to be original with the name.  So please stop saying I mispelled it.

@Shiningsword - Titan is rare. Similar to the "other" Other weapons I think it would make sense to have more alternatives that can be used in decks (overall this would be a very useful common weapon because it can bypass some shields.)

@Noobiecakes Ranged is already an ability that Short Bow has. Ninjatsu does not need ranged because it can already performed Range'd ability and better. I originally designed the card as a way to get around the haxx shields but since mechanicwise Phase Shield also causes misses I thought it might as well be also helpful to provide a counter to it that all elements can use. (Who knows, you might be warping the opponent's dimension to bring him back into phase. ;) )

Also fixed the error with the spell/permanent icon.


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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301260#msg301260
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2011, 03:37:47 am »
You have animated upgraded Ninjatsu as 4|3
also, I feel like this is too situational. When would you know to pick ninjatsu over long sword?

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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301331#msg301331
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2011, 07:02:05 am »
I like the concept, and I think it's balanced at the moment. But I wouldn't pick this weapon over any other weapon.  Owl's Eye, for example.  The advantage of CC on a stick is worth more than a guaranteed 4-7 damage that bypasses a couple shields that, although commonly used, aren't seen in every single match.

  I think there needs to be a bigger incentive to use this weapon.  Maybe it could deal double damage when those shields are in play?

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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301659#msg301659
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2011, 08:05:01 pm »
I like the concept, and I think it's balanced at the moment. But I wouldn't pick this weapon over any other weapon.  Owl's Eye, for example.  The advantage of CC on a stick is worth more than a guaranteed 4-7 damage that bypasses a couple shields that, although commonly used, aren't seen in every single match.

I think there needs to be a bigger incentive to use this weapon.  Maybe it could deal double damage when those shields are in play?
Eagle's Eye is a rare. This card is basically a cheaper/weaker version of Titan that can bypass most shields that make you miss on purpose, and is common for accesbility (sort of like Dagger being a placeholder for the arsenic you may lack in a deck). Lowering the cost to 2 | 2 automatically makes it replace any Short Bows or Gavels.

I like the double damage suggestion, but my main problem is how to fit it on the card text.  :-\

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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301673#msg301673
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2011, 08:17:15 pm »
so its a weaker and cheaper Titan?
i recommend changing to teh double damage thing suggested.

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Re: Ninjatsu | Ninjatsu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23614.msg301851#msg301851
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 11:10:54 pm »
Alright, I've changed the card so that it has a double-damage ability instead of the accuracy ability.

 

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