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The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg285952#msg285952
« on: March 08, 2011, 04:28:32 am »
The Ultimate Elements
Music Topic

They say in Hollywood that 50% of a movie is sound. I don't know what the numbers are when talking about online games, but I don't think that anyone disagrees when I say that music and sound effects are important part of a game.

This topic has several goals.

1. Find out what kind of music community members would like to hear in Elements
2. Find out during which parts community members think music should be played in Elements
3. Find or produce royalty-free music that can be used in Elements.
4. Using a poll, determine the most popular songs submitted.
Elements currently has only two tracks of music: intro music and False God music. This lack of different music is most likely at least partly because audio files can be large and increase loading times. However when looping shorter audio clips, files can be brought down to more manageable sizes, which should in theory enable us to have more unique audio clips inside Elements. And there is also the possibility of not having more audio clips, but having different audio clips to get more variation.

I know there are many talented people on this community. I think that it's time for us to step up and help Elements developers by finding or producing great music that can maybe one day added to the game. Current intro music was produced by out Global Moderator jmizzle7 (using the old guitar intro as a base), so there already is a history of Elements developers using community created music.

It is important to realize that there are absolutely no guarantees that your music will be used in Elements, nor are there even guarantees that Elements will have new music. All that is up to the developers. On this topic we merely give the developers options to choose from.

I would also like to add that polls on this topic should not be taken as the community making decisions for the developers. They are only suggestions and feedback.

If you want to submit songs, please use the short tutorial below. Post the "embed" code of your song on this topic, and I will add them to the list. Remember, songs you post must be 100% royalty-free for commercial use in Elements. This means that either the song was produced by yourself and you grant Elements developers the right to use it, or it was taken from a website that allows royalty-free commercial use.

If your song gets added to the game, you will naturally be credited for it.

This is just a start. Polls, plus tons of other stuff, will be added to this post later.


Upload Songs Using   

What is Kiwi6?
Kiwi6 allows you to upload your mp3-files online for free. You will receive a link to your mp3-file, or you can embed the file directly on a website or a forum.

The advantage of Kiwi6 over similar services like YouTube is that Kiwi6 does not require registration, and uploading is very fast. It takes less than a minute to upload one song and receive the link. Simple, fast and free.

Tutorial
  • Produce your musical masterpiece and save it on your computer as an mp3-file
  • Go to Kiwi6.com (http://kiwi6.com/)
  • Click the "SELECT FILES" button, and select your mp3-file
  • Click "Start Upload" and wait for it to finish
  • Click the link that appeared on the right
  • You are now on the download page of your song. In there you can listen to the song, get links to your song, or get the html code needed to embed your song on a website or a forum.
  • Post the "Embed" code of your song to this topic and wait for Scaredgirl to add your song to the first post.

List of Royalty-Free Songs
This is where we list all the songs found during this project. I started off by adding some songs, all of which can be used in Elements for free, as long as the artist is credited. Warning: Most of these probably wouldn't fit to Elements at all.

Achilles by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Chee Zee Cave by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Chee Zee Jungle by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Decisions by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Enter the Maze by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Failing Defense by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Frost Waltz by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Ibn Al-Noor by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Impending Boom by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Long Time Coming by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Mistake the Getaway by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Movement Proposition by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Not As It Seems by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Old Road by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Rising by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Smoking Gun by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Sudden Defeat by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Zombie Hoodoo by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
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Silvershine by Danosongs.com (http://www.danosongs.com/)
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Vestige En Antigua by Danosongs.com (http://www.danosongs.com/)
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Today Then Tomorrow by Danosongs.com (http://www.danosongs.com/)
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Undiscovered Ocean by Danosongs.com (http://www.danosongs.com/)
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Copper Mountain by Danosongs.com (http://www.danosongs.com/)
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Long Live Emperor Kalas by Danosongs.com (http://www.danosongs.com/)
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Magic Ghost by Danosongs.com (http://www.danosongs.com/)
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Rocketry by Danosongs.com (http://www.danosongs.com/)
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Helium Hues by Danosongs.com (http://www.danosongs.com/)
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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg286092#msg286092
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2011, 10:43:37 am »
Added 18 royalty-free songs by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/).

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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg286573#msg286573
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 12:21:40 am »
Partners In Rhyme (http://www.partnersinrhyme.com) is a good site for royalty-free music/loops/sound effects. Not sure if this is much help or what you were looking for, but it's something.
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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg286602#msg286602
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2011, 12:54:34 am »
I am currently making a jingle for the bazaar.  It will be semi-smooth jazz, featuring minor/major 6ths.

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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg286613#msg286613
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 01:03:47 am »
i have a suggestion rather than a website to give or music. i suggest that, when a player plays a game, a song plays according to his mark (a fire mark would make a fast going tempo and catchy beat while life would be something more tribal, sounds of drums and animal cries and howls.) its a suggestion really. im giving out ideas
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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg286616#msg286616
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 01:05:17 am »
i have a suggestion rather than a website to give or music. i suggest that, when a player plays a game, a song plays according to his mark (a fire mark would make a fast going tempo and catchy beat while life would be something more tribal, sounds of drums and animal cries and howls.) its a suggestion really. im giving out ideas
Maybe.  I did make a descent death and/or darkness song...

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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg286646#msg286646
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 02:01:42 am »
Partners In Rhyme (http://www.partnersinrhyme.com) is a good site for royalty-free music/loops/sound effects. Not sure if this is much help or what you were looking for, but it's something.
Thanks. We can use some of the songs on that website, but not all of it. They are using the same trick that most audio sites use, which is offering only royalty-free material, not free.

To anyone who didn't know, royalty-free means you can use the material without having to pay royalties for the holder of copyright. But that's different than "regular free", because you usually still have to pay for being able to use it.

We need material that is..

A) Free of charge (no need to buy)
B) Royalty-free

Most of the songs on Partners In Rhyme (http://www.partnersinrhyme.com) is only B, but some of the songs and loops are A + B.

I'll take a look at them. Thanks.

By the way.. if I do find something, I cannot list them here because they forbid me to do this:
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post on a website for download as we are doing here


I am currently making a jingle for the bazaar.  It will be semi-smooth jazz, featuring minor/major 6ths.
Ok, cool.

One option I was thinking was to have Bazaar have some kind of Persian music, since that's where Bazaars originated from, and it's also used as a "Bazaar background music". For example if you listen to that Ibn Al-Noor track above, it has that Bazaar feeling I think. Well, either that or a Harem. :)


i have a suggestion rather than a website to give or music. i suggest that, when a player plays a game, a song plays according to his mark (a fire mark would make a fast going tempo and catchy beat while life would be something more tribal, sounds of drums and animal cries and howls.) its a suggestion really. im giving out ideas
I like the concept of changing music based on players mark. But wouldn't it get boring really fast if you always use the same mark? I mean you would have to listen to that same song over and over again.

What if there was music based on your mark, but it only played when you are in the "Your Deck" window? This way it wouldn't be too spammy, and it would also have the added benefit of reminding you what mark you have, so you don't go out fighting with the wrong one.

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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg286717#msg286717
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 03:26:01 am »
I see what u mean. yes redundancy is redundant. maybe have like 2 or three songs for each elements (if even possible) or have a selection of songs somewhere so the player chooses what song plays in what menu (again, if even possible)...kinda like a presetted jukebox that can be modded in main menu. just saying. don't want to impose
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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg287030#msg287030
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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg290243#msg290243
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 01:41:17 pm »
I see what u mean. yes redundancy is redundant. maybe have like 2 or three songs for each elements (if even possible) or have a selection of songs somewhere so the player chooses what song plays in what menu (again, if even possible)...kinda like a presetted jukebox that can be modded in main menu. just saying. don't want to impose
That is one option yes. But then again if we give the players control by giving them a jukebox, it raises the question why not just go mute and let them listen to their own music? :)

One could argue that music in game is like music in a movie: it's designed to be part of the whole experience. I don't know.. We can include this in the poll.


Quick and dirty bazaar loop:  http://www.kongregate.com/collabs/sounds/Gl1tch/bazaar
Awesome, thanks. I'll add it to the first post when I add some of the competition loops we will be getting shortly.

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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg301350#msg301350
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2011, 08:36:54 am »
This topic got buried, was a bit hard to find.

 -- I want to offer the track made for the Elder Music Competition, though I don't know if I should upload it to kiwi or not, all of the submissions were deleted there in a few days, but it can be done if neccesary of course.

I'd love Elements having more melodies in it, like, the Bazaar with a persian/arabic theme, different gods with a different impressions, or even a background loop for your deck section (the place you spend your time the most ). Probably it's not one of the prior things to do for Zanz - if it ever crossed his mind -, but music plays an (extremely) important role in every gender of entertainment, be it a huge movie or a computer game - And today's people can only be satisfied fully enough, if most - if not all - of their senses are well fed, sadly though.. But I can't really judge how important is this in the case of an OCCG.
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Re: The Ultimate Elements Music Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22560.msg301353#msg301353
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 08:47:54 am »
i have a suggestion rather than a website to give or music. i suggest that, when a player plays a game, a song plays according to his mark (a fire mark would make a fast going tempo and catchy beat while life would be something more tribal, sounds of drums and animal cries and howls.) its a suggestion really. im giving out ideas
Maybe.  I did make a descent death and/or darkness song...
Good idea. Here's the list:

Fire - Fast-Paced, Action Theme
Water - Calm, Flowing Theme
Air - Whooshing Theme
Earth - Solid, Impact Theme
Darkness - Dark, Odd Theme
Light - Celestial, Redemption Theme
Life - Tribal Theme
Death - Death Metal Theme
Entropy - Chaotic, Fast-Paced Theme
Gravity - Heavy Metal Theme
Aether - Dimensional, Techno Theme
Time - Things Like Dr. Who

 

anything
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