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Flowing Reflection {Upped | Quartet | Bronze | Domin} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg274309#msg274309
« on: February 20, 2011, 01:49:07 am »
A long time ago I had a spark of inspiration. I realized water had many synergies and came up with the idea of fueling these combos with supernovas. Unfortunately this deck had major quanta imbalance and thus it fell to the wayside.

A few days ago I returned to this deck. With the introduction of pendulums the quanta flow was much improved and I could use tears more reliably. I tweaked the skeleton of this original deck and added pendulums to it.

I was surprised by how versatile this deck could be. Whether it becomes more of rush or more of a control depends on your opening hand, and even then you usually have choices depending on the opponent's deck.

So without further ado, I present the deck.

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The primary use for every card in here:

  • 2x Toadfish - Damage and poisons creatures.
  • 1x Maxwell's Demon - Defense against high attack.
  • 6x Supernova - Quanta for all the abilities, Spectres, Steals, and extra water.
  • 8x Entropy Pendulums - Quanta for supernovas and water cards.
  • 2x Forest Spectres - Straight damage that grows if left untouched.
  • 3x Physalia - Poison damage, to guard against high CC
  • 1x Poseidon - Quanta deniall
  • 1x Ulitharid - Ability removal, used with nymphs to nullify a grown creature.
  • 2x Nymph's Tears - Creates nymphs for healing and damage removal.
  • 2x Steal - Takes control of permanents.

This has more pendulums than a standard PSN-based deck because of the abundance of water cards and inclusion of Tears. It gets a surprising amount of damage and tons of control to back it up.

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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg274330#msg274330
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 03:04:55 am »
Beautiful synergy you've got going here.  The only possible suggestion I could make is maybe add another Trident to increase the EQ denial, but that's totally up to personal preference.  Great deck overall, nice to see a trio coming from Supernova usage.
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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg274350#msg274350
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 03:46:11 am »
SoRs will do wonders to the deck imo..
(only 2, but it will make a difference if the game goes on long enough)

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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg274960#msg274960
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 11:50:59 pm »
SoRs will do wonders to the deck imo..
(only 2, but it will make a difference if the game goes on long enough)
Tested a version with these. SoRs are really only useful on Steam Machines, and they might be removed in the next version because of how unreliable they are, for reasons I explained. Also the game would usually end before I can really pull off the combo.

Problem is I'm not sure what to replace them with. Maybe some rainbow control, squids, or lycanthropes to use extra :entropy
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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg275016#msg275016
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2011, 01:24:56 am »
I really like this idea.  I started playing with this unupped the other day, but couldn't get it to work.  This version is just what I was going for.  Bravo dd.

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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg275883#msg275883
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2011, 12:32:12 am »
Love the theme and name. It's difficult to change it as it's very balanced. Poseidon slows down a lot of decks, but since Physalia add the least damage/utility, I'd replace 2 with 2 Congeals if I wanted to give Purples more time to get out and stop rushes. 2 Uli's could be enough to make more room for CC, but it's all preference in the end. It's versatile, balanced, and highly customisable like Water should be.

Lycans would be great over Physalia yeah, even if they'd take away from the theme a bit.
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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg275887#msg275887
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2011, 12:44:16 am »
Great points you have there. I'll try to talk about them in relation to my deck.

The good thing about Physalia is that even if they are removed from the field the damage remains. However, I could see removing one, maybe a second for more control.

Congeal wouldn't play too vital a role and the deck might be quanta strained if I added squids, so adding a couple would probably help quite a bit.

As for Ulitharids, the amount of them in there is mostly because they can be so helpful in the early game. In more recent games however they're not needed until mind-game, and so I think removing one is safe.

Lycans are great in this deck, and I'm not too concerned about keeping the theme absolute in exchange for power. Using them in place of machines has done very well for me in testing.

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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg278694#msg278694
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 02:22:24 am »
If u want to use extra entropy quanta, Chaos power works,because it helps everything survive. How much does BE cost? PC to round out the epicness. If not, no loss.

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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg279050#msg279050
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 05:05:48 pm »
Here's the version I'm testing now:

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  • +2 Toadfish, +2 Lycanthropes
This version seems slightly better in both damage and control. Steam Machines required too much quanta to be efficient while Werewolves require very little. Toadfish add quite a bit of damage and a some control to go with it.

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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg279070#msg279070
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 05:32:43 pm »
Wow, now that's something. Very unique. I can't really see Nymph's Tears being very useful, though (at least, against AI3). Low damage, very high cost ability, you might as well use Steam Machines or something.

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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg279074#msg279074
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 05:38:15 pm »
Wow, now that's something. Very unique. I can't really see Nymph's Tears being very useful, though (at least, against AI3). Low damage, very high cost ability, you might as well use Steam Machines or something.
If an ai3 is managing to out stall you (the mono :aether, the :time :light, the :fire :water mostly) the nymphs tears give you the ability to stall them back long enough for Physalias to overpower them. However, you can easily replace them with copies of cards already in the deck or mentioned on this thread.

When I get around to testing this against PvP decks, the tears will probably become more useful.
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Re: Flowing Reflection - PSN Trio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg296689#msg296689
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2011, 06:34:26 pm »
What does PSN stand for ?  It seems like a common term here.

 

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