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Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg242917#msg242917
« on: January 08, 2011, 04:54:43 am »
A general

NAME:
Graviton Captain
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
8 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|6
TEXT:
:time :time: Train
Generate a Graviton Soldier.
NAME:
Graviton General
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
8 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|9
TEXT:
:time :time: Train
Generate a Graviton Marine.
NAME:
Graviton Soldier
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|2
TEXT:
Ambush. Ambushers deal more damage in groups.
NAME:
Graviton Marine
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|2
TEXT:
Ambush. Ambushers deal more damage in groups.
ART:
Flayne
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Graviton Soldier|Graviton Marine is not available as a standalone card.
Ambush
Type: Passive
Effect: This creature's current attack increases by 1 for each successful attack dealt to the opponent by a creature with Ambush. These increases last until the end of the turn.
SERIES:
Ambush! Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18059.msg245655#msg245655)
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg242928#msg242928
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 05:11:39 am »
looks good to me.
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg242930#msg242930
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 05:13:13 am »
looks like a good card to get some trials posts in. ill edit this tomorrow when i think of them
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg242932#msg242932
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 05:15:19 am »
looks like a good card to get some trials posts in. ill edit this tomorrow when i think of them
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg242933#msg242933
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2011, 05:18:29 am »
looks like a good card to get some trials posts in. ill edit this tomorrow when i think of them
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg242939#msg242939
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2011, 05:23:41 am »
Well, I have to say I love this card. I can't really understand why the skill is time, unless you mean that it takes time to summon them or somthing? Anyway, back to the card, the general seems almost weak compared to the marine. Could we perhaps give the general a bit more HP to fit gravitys theme more? Or would that throw off the balance of the card? Good card either way, no this isn't for trials either if you were wondering :P
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg242951#msg242951
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2011, 05:37:47 am »
Well, I have to say I love this card. I can't really understand why the skill is time, unless you mean that it takes time to summon them or somthing? Anyway, back to the card, the general seems almost weak compared to the marine. Could we perhaps give the general a bit more HP to fit gravitys theme more? Or would that throw off the balance of the card? Good card either way, no this isn't for trials either if you were wondering :P
It takes time to train soldiers. (The soldiers are being trained and not hatched like FFQ)
The General is less aggressive but more durable. It tends to focus more on the cerebral nature of the battle and let the Marine specialize in the practice of warfare. I think 6|9 hp is pretty large however it could be increased (with an appropriate increase in casting cost of course). I am thinking about changing the soldier|marine to 2|4
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg243108#msg243108
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2011, 02:55:14 pm »
i reckon a reasonable option for the soldier|marine would be: unupped: 2/3 and upped: 2/4
that way the unupped is more balanced since their are cc cards that are well capable of killing it such as firebolt, shockwave and lightning, but upped can be instant killed only by lightning.

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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg243111#msg243111
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2011, 02:58:44 pm »
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg243545#msg243545
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2011, 11:47:10 pm »
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg243584#msg243584
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2011, 12:39:29 am »
I like the card idea.  It has a similar effect to pharaoh in which the cards that it creates become stronger when there are more of them.  I dont necessarily think you need to make a new second card, unless you are following the ambush series.  Gravity already has a low-mid range attacker that is perfect for summoning, which is Gravitation Mercenary.  Giving gravity 2 more creatures is in my opinion unnecessary considering it already has Graviton Mercenary that fits the role of the soldier.  It would also make Graviton Mercenary more played, since very few decks that I know of use it.  I think that the cost of the Captain is a little high, but you could change that by either making the cost a little lower or adding some sort of passive skill that benefits other gravity cards slightly since it is a Graviton Captain and it "leads the troops" so to speak.  This ability could be something as simple as gravity creatures getting a small attack/health bonus, or something such as one gravity creature attacks twice with the second attack being half of its regular attack rounded up.   This card could open up some good gravity/time duos with scarabs, with both elements using quanta from the other element.  Overall, this is a very good and clever card idea.
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Re: Graviton Captain | Graviton General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19066.msg243597#msg243597
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2011, 01:03:54 am »
Thank you jippy99 for your review

The general is a test to see if and how a spawned ambusher can be balanced.

Another card idea had been suggested earlier in the Ambush thread that will give all Graviton creatures (itself, Mercenary and FireEater) ambush. < This idea will be coming soon to a smithy near you.

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