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Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg214782#msg214782
« on: December 02, 2010, 03:37:47 am »
NAME:
Garnet Stone
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|3
TEXT:
Each turn :gravity is generated.
:gravity :gravity :gravity : Half of target's quanta transforms into quanta of target's mark.
NAME:
Garnet Gem
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|3
TEXT:
Each turn :gravity is generated.
:gravity :gravity :gravity : Half of target's quanta transforms into quanta of target's mark.
ART:
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NOTES:
- Either player can be targeted by the ability

Changes:
- Changes the ability from all quanta to half of the quanta
SERIES:
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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg214815#msg214815
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 04:44:05 am »
OP in my mind. You could play a quantum pillar grav deck, or any other mono-duo deck, add these cards and suddenly you get a huge quanta boost to your main element. I think if it chose a random element (that you have quanta off) is converted to yoru mark quanta.

I'd always think Onyx fits this element more than garnet.
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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg214817#msg214817
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 04:47:06 am »
Ah yes you're probably right, I'll more than likely change this to a random quanta.  It would still be effective if you are playing a Duo- or Trio- deck and need a Gravity quanta push.

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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg214818#msg214818
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 04:49:04 am »
This plus Bolts... Ow. Gonna go with OP, too.
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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg214822#msg214822
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 04:52:26 am »
Or change how the effect works, like a reverse Black hole. have it take up to 3 quanta from each of the target player's quanta and turn it into quanta of your mark divided by 2. Something like that might be good.
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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg214823#msg214823
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 04:53:36 am »
Good job with the balancing.

The new ability is really nice and fits Gravity element of order very nicely. However I fear that the ability is powerful enough to rate a higher Casting Cost.

Quantum Pillars, Gravity Mark
Turn 5 activate ability convert 15 quanta to Gravity per Quantum Pillar and 3 more per pillar per turn (-1 per turn).
The quantum pillars are likely to generate :gravity to make this faster.

I think this is the best one from your Gem series and I would rate a balanced version of this on par with a balanced version of Soul Collector, Nova and Immolation.

So the ability is powerful but it fits as a thematically appropriate special quanta accelerator. I would keep it tied to the mark/Gravity (less randomness from a Gravity quanta generator) but increase the costs or maybe lose some of the quanta in the process?
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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg214842#msg214842
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2010, 05:21:29 am »
Thank you so much Kamietsu and OldTrees for the suggestions.

Would this be a good compromise?



I increased the price as well.

If not, how about even 1/3 of quanta?

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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg214843#msg214843
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2010, 05:21:49 am »
whoops delete please.

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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg214850#msg214850
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 05:28:35 am »
I was referring more to something like

Convert quanta into half that much quanta of the your mark.

however what you have would work better.
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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg215089#msg215089
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 05:33:01 pm »
Cool ok thanks for helping balance this, I'll work on it soon.

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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg215125#msg215125
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2010, 07:23:27 pm »
If it works on your enemy, this completely shuts down some FGs. And that's bad. FG grinding isn't supposed to be easy...
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Re: Garnet Stone | Garnet Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16785.msg215132#msg215132
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2010, 07:46:24 pm »
As of right now, it does work on enemies.  But I am amending it to convert only half of the quanta, is that still gonna shut them down?

 

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