War - Round 5

[the dictator]

There is only one problem: water has to play 6 players, which would be right when nilsies win was still legal (because that left us at 209 cards), however, the match is replayed (i don't like it at all, because it looks like fire has been complaining until they finally got a win, but whatever) that leaves us at 179 cards (because we discard 24 more, and salvage 6 less), meaning we can only make 5 decks. So, that would mean the seeding has to be redone, or one of waters members has to be taken out, and his opponent fights another member of gravity (as they got a bye).

[nilsieboy]

There is only one problem: water has to play 6 players, which would be right when nilsies win was still legal (because that left us at 209 cards), however, the match is replayed (i don't like it at all, because it looks like fire has been complaining until they finally got a win, but whatever) that leaves us at 179 cards (because we discard 24 more, and salvage 6 less), meaning we can only make 5 decks. So, that would mean the seeding has to be redone, or one of waters members has to be taken out, and his opponent fights another member of gravity (as they got a bye).

lol, you're right there....

[Scaredgirl]

There is only one problem: water has to play 6 players, which would be right when nilsies win was still legal (because that left us at 209 cards), however, the match is replayed (i don't like it at all, because it looks like fire has been complaining until they finally got a win, but whatever) that leaves us at 179 cards (because we discard 24 more, and salvage 6 less), meaning we can only make 5 decks. So, that would mean the seeding has to be redone, or one of waters members has to be taken out, and his opponent fights another member of gravity (as they got a bye).

Actually it was not only that was complaining. A lot of people had a problem with that outcome, and rightfully so. Basically what happened was that nilsieboy failed to show up during the time of the fight, and then somehow team got penalized for that. I don't think that any objective person out there could say with a straight face that it was a fair outcome.

Rematch was fair because both players used their original decks, just like it would have happened in the first place had nielsieboy showed up to fight.

Also there was a premade solution for not having enough cards for 6 players. The beauty of having players listed in fighting order is that we know which team member will be left out. It's the players #6 on the list. This way there is no need for redoing the seeding, and all we need to do is remove that one player giving his opponent a bye.

wavedash is not fighting, so Fenix2011 (his opponent) gets a bye. I edited the first post to include this information.

Case closed.

[the dictator]

There is only one problem: water has to play 6 players, which would be right when nilsies win was still legal (because that left us at 209 cards), however, the match is replayed (i don't like it at all, because it looks like fire has been complaining until they finally got a win, but whatever) that leaves us at 179 cards (because we discard 24 more, and salvage 6 less), meaning we can only make 5 decks. So, that would mean the seeding has to be redone, or one of waters members has to be taken out, and his opponent fights another member of gravity (as they got a bye).

Actually it was not only that was complaining. A lot of people had a problem with that outcome, and rightfully so. Basically what happened was that nilsieboy failed to show up during the time of the fight, and then somehow team got penalized for that. I don't think that any objective person out there could say with a straight face that it was a fair outcome.

Rematch was fair because both players used their original decks, just like it would have happened in the first place had nielsieboy showed up to fight.

Also there was a premade solution for not having enough cards for 6 players. The beauty of having players listed in fighting order is that we know which team member will be left out. It's the players #6 on the list. This way there is no need for redoing the seeding, and all we need to do is remove that one player giving his opponent a bye.

wavedash is not fighting, so Fenix2011 (his opponent) gets a bye. I edited the first post to include this information.

Case closed.

About, the match, as I said, I don't care any more, it is just a game (actually, it is just a game IN a game).

But, if wavedash doesn't fight, shouldn't Fenix fight another gravity member, otherwise, two teams would get a bye this round. And, if two teams get a bye this round, why would light get the bye, that seems a little unfair for me.

O, and I'm not trying to get everything more complicated, just to get everything as fair as possible.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

There is only one problem: water has to play 6 players, which would be right when nilsies win was still legal (because that left us at 209 cards), however, the match is replayed (i don't like it at all, because it looks like fire has been complaining until they finally got a win, but whatever) that leaves us at 179 cards (because we discard 24 more, and salvage 6 less), meaning we can only make 5 decks. So, that would mean the seeding has to be redone, or one of waters members has to be taken out, and his opponent fights another member of gravity (as they got a bye).

Actually it was not only that was complaining. A lot of people had a problem with that outcome, and rightfully so. Basically what happened was that nilsieboy failed to show up during the time of the fight, and then somehow team got penalized for that. I don't think that any objective person out there could say with a straight face that it was a fair outcome.

Rematch was fair because both players used their original decks, just like it would have happened in the first place had nielsieboy showed up to fight.

Also there was a premade solution for not having enough cards for 6 players. The beauty of having players listed in fighting order is that we know which team member will be left out. It's the players #6 on the list. This way there is no need for redoing the seeding, and all we need to do is remove that one player giving his opponent a bye.

wavedash is not fighting, so Fenix2011 (his opponent) gets a bye. I edited the first post to include this information.

Case closed.

About, the match, as I said, I don't care any more, it is just a game (actually, it is just a game IN a game).

But, if wavedash doesn't fight, shouldn't Fenix fight another gravity member, otherwise, two teams would get a bye this round. And, if two teams get a bye this round, why would light get the bye, that seems a little unfair for me.

O, and I'm not trying to get everything more complicated, just to get everything as fair as possible.

Gravity is already battling at full capacity, so I don't see how you'd let them field a deck they can't...

[the dictator]

There is only one problem: water has to play 6 players, which would be right when nilsies win was still legal (because that left us at 209 cards), however, the match is replayed (i don't like it at all, because it looks like fire has been complaining until they finally got a win, but whatever) that leaves us at 179 cards (because we discard 24 more, and salvage 6 less), meaning we can only make 5 decks. So, that would mean the seeding has to be redone, or one of waters members has to be taken out, and his opponent fights another member of gravity (as they got a bye).

Actually it was not only that was complaining. A lot of people had a problem with that outcome, and rightfully so. Basically what happened was that nilsieboy failed to show up during the time of the fight, and then somehow team got penalized for that. I don't think that any objective person out there could say with a straight face that it was a fair outcome.

Rematch was fair because both players used their original decks, just like it would have happened in the first place had nielsieboy showed up to fight.

Also there was a premade solution for not having enough cards for 6 players. The beauty of having players listed in fighting order is that we know which team member will be left out. It's the players #6 on the list. This way there is no need for redoing the seeding, and all we need to do is remove that one player giving his opponent a bye.

wavedash is not fighting, so Fenix2011 (his opponent) gets a bye. I edited the first post to include this information.

Case closed.

About, the match, as I said, I don't care any more, it is just a game (actually, it is just a game IN a game).

But, if wavedash doesn't fight, shouldn't Fenix fight another gravity member, otherwise, two teams would get a bye this round. And, if two teams get a bye this round, why would light get the bye, that seems a little unfair for me.

O, and I'm not trying to get everything more complicated, just to get everything as fair as possible.

Gravity is already battling at full capacity, so I don't see how you'd let them field a deck they can't...

I thought they had gotten a bye this round. Well, nevermind then.

[kev]

wavedash is not fighting, so Fenix2011 (his opponent) gets a bye. I edited the first post to include this information.

Opponents will be determined randomly by Warmasters using an online randomizer. If there are uneven number of players fighting during a round, the team in last place (least amount of cards in the Vault) gets a bye, meaning that one player in that team will skip the round. If that team already had a bye during the previous round, the 2nd to last team gets a bye instead. No team may have a 2nd bye unless all other active teams have had at least 1 bye.

Is Light being given the bye due to the special circumstances of the late match results?

Currently Life and Gravity are tied for last.  If no byes have ocurred, a tiebreaker is required.  I mentioned the need for a tiebreaker before the War.  Here's  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12391.msg172291#msg172291)your response.  If Light isn't being given the bye it should go to Life with a lower win ratio.

[ddevans96]

I see it as barely distinguishable from the darkness icon. Probably just because I'm near sighted, lol.

If I take off my glasses, it does look similar to the darkness icons (I have like 20:60 vision or something :3)

However, the wings and the U shape are still visible at that shape, and it still looks great to me

[Sir Valimont]

Opponents will be determined randomly by Warmasters using an online randomizer. If there are uneven number of players fighting during a round, the team in last place (least amount of cards in the Vault) gets a bye, meaning that one player in that team will skip the round. If that team already had a bye during the previous round, the 2nd to last team gets a bye instead. No team may have a 2nd bye unless all other active teams have had at least 1 bye.

Is Light being given the bye due to the special circumstances of the late match results?

Currently Life and Gravity are tied for last.  If no byes have ocurred, a tiebreaker is required.  I mentioned the need for a tiebreaker before the War.  Here's  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12391.msg172291#msg172291)your response.  If Light isn't being given the bye it should go to Life with a lower win ratio.

Seems like a special circumstance, and some good luck for Team . It doesn't seem to me like fairness has been breached enough to reverse that ... let's let Light keep the advantage.

[hainkarga]

no UW battles for ?

No battles for UW ? darn

[Sir Valimont]

no UW battles for ?

No battles for UW ? darn

Prove yourself against the lesser Elements and will be glad to fight you in Round 6.

[hainkarga]

Sure, but first we have 2x and 2x to take care of.  But its funny to see getting upset about not having UW matches.