Innocent | Martyr

[Drobbit]

NAME: Innocent ELEMENT: Light COST: 2 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1|3 TEXT: When Innocent dies it becomes a Guradian Angel.	NAME: Martyr ELEMENT: Light COST: 4 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1|3 TEXT: When Martyr dies it becomes an Archangel.

ART: Unknown (http://www.saint-name.com/) The guy of the picture is saint something... I think it's saint Peter IDEA: Drobbit NOTES: Easy concept: UP creature but when dying you get a better creature for less cost. It has good synergy with some cards like immolation, and you don't need to quint it or worry about it because all you want is that it dies. SERIES:

[QuantumT]

The unupped one seems rather UP, seeing as angel itself is pretty terrible. I would lower the cost for the unupped one to 2.

Other than that, I like the card.

[ddevans96]

Unupped should say guardian angel, and I would lower the unupped cost to 2 or 3. Other than that, nice card.

[Drobbit]

Cost of the unupped card reduced to 2.
Good catch ddevans.

[Krahhl]

BE'ing it only to let it die would be a waste, as the skill wouldn't carry over. And could this skill be lobo'd? If so, BE would cause it to even not turn into an angel.

[Kuross]

First thought that came to my mind was using the upped one for a Cremation then using the Fire quanta to pop my new AA with a Rage potion. Might be fun to see this show up in the bazaar

[ArtCrusade]

BE'ing it only to let it die would be a waste, as the skill wouldn't carry over. And could this skill be lobo'd? If so, BE would cause it to even not turn into an angel.

It seems to have no other ability, so I think it'll be a passive one that you cannot lobo'd

[Drobbit]

BE'ing it only to let it die would be a waste, as the skill wouldn't carry over. And could this skill be lobo'd? If so, BE would cause it to even not turn into an angel.

It's a passive ability. I understand that abilities that don't require an activation are passive and can not be lobotomized (even if I'm wrong, this one can not be removed by this way).

First thought that came to my mind was using the upped one for a Cremation then using the Fire quanta to pop my new AA with a Rage potion. Might be fun to see this show up in the bazaar

good one!
your opponent will never kill that creature so you can even bless it or enchant with a butterfly effect to provoque it's death (or keep using it this way).

[Krahhl]

Archangel is not so strong that your opponent will avoid killing this card just to prevent it from turning into one. And if you buff this card (blessing, butterfly effect), it's not too different from buffing, say, a micro abomination. That completely ignores the point of this card - high cost for ability to transform.

I get where you are going with buffing this card so that the opponent will have to choose, either leave it powerful as it is or waste a CC only to have to deal with an archangel afterward. But it still just seems like a waste of a butterfly effect that could actually be used to destroy permanents rather than gain you an archangel.

[Drobbit]

Of course! I'll start to deal with perms till the opponent preferes to deal with an archangel. If you play a microabomination (the usual target of butterfly effect) you have to:
a) pray to still have it the next turn, when you put on it the BE and quint it
b) put the BE + the quint and wait the next turn
with this card (in this case, there are more uses for the card) I'm not afraid of losing it so I can play it and wait. In the worse case can feed my oty, activate the bonewall + graveyard and become a powerful creature.

[Krahhl]

Yes, but my point is that you're either wasting light quanta by using this as your BE creature instead of something cheaper, or wasting a butterfly effect by using it on a creature that's going to be killed anyway.

I'm not saying the card isn't good, just that it doesn't work that well with BE. It definitely has plenty of other uses.

[AnonymousRevival]

Do you reckon to have the HPs lowered so that the transformation would become easier?