Mana Larva | Mana Worm

[moomoose]

NAME: Mana Larva ELEMENT: Aether COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2|2 TEXT: Mana larva attacks the opponent's quanta pool and not their health	NAME: Mana Worm ELEMENT: Aether COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2|4 TEXT: Mana worm attacks the opponent's quanta pool and not their health

ART: elementsthegame IDEA: moomoose NOTES: This card essentially always is facing a dispersion field shield, if you want to think of it like that.  Adrenaline will make this creature attack a maximum of two times per round.  Antimatter will function as normally on this card, so it will heal the opponent's hp as opposed to generating random quanta.  Buffing the creatures attack will increase the amount of quanta hit by the attack.  Shields can reduce or eliminate the damage done to the quanta pool and shield effects can still take place (fire shield, thorns, etc) SERIES:

[Kuross]

Not too shabby, I like it. Was working on a few ideas similar to this but never got around to putting anything together. Although I think the attack could be lessened, but that's a personal opinion more than anything else. If this card went live right now as is I'd have little issue with it. Way to go

[QuantumT]

So it seems like it would function as a devourer except you don't get the quanta boost.

I'd be incredibly concerned about balance issues when it's combined with fractal.

[moomoose]

well when it comes to fractaling this- it wont do damage for you so it may be similar to going in a heal-happy direction, youll live, but you may not win. and it being means that it's slower than other elements if it were to be fractal'd in terms of playing what you just produced with the fractal.  i considered making it immaterial, but i knew people would groan and say "another immaterial aether creature? sigh." and assume it to be a buff rather than a nerf.

and yes, it is very similar to devourer, however devourer will do damage to the opponents health if the atk is buffed.  currently this also lacks burrow as well.  and as you mentioned, this does not generate quanta.

[Ryli]

So it seems like it would function as a devourer except you don't get the quanta boost.

Not at all. This can be buffed to take lots more.

I'd be incredibly concerned about balance issues when it's combined with fractal.

Me too. Maybe up stats and cost. As the element is aether having it at a mid-high cost really puts a hard stomp on fractal abuse, but the stats would need to reflect the cost.

[Kuross]

I think the fundamental difference is if I lobotomize a Pest, it still devours quanta. If I have a shield, the pest still devours. As long as the Devourer is alive and kicking, it will devour. But with the leech, sheilds and CC will stop the loss in quanta. Also, fractaling a devour gets a certain amount of instant satisfaction whereas you can't immediately play the leeches until next turn.

[moomoose]

no, morningstar, he meant (i believe) that this does not *produce* quanta after it takes it from the opponent, as devourer converts what it takes into for the owner

[Baily18]

Or maybe instead of Raising cost b/c of fractal, make it unfractable? o:

[moomoose]

Or maybe instead of Raising cost b/c of fractal, make it unfractable? o:

when that mechanic is added to the game i will jump for joy at the ease of being able to avoid "this + fractal = OP" conundrums.

[Ryli]

no, morningstar, he meant (i believe) that this does not *produce* quanta after it takes it from the opponent, as devourer converts what it takes into for the owner

I know that. He said it was similar. I was just stating how the huge difference in how it's ability works makes it completely different.

[QuantumT]

Or maybe instead of Raising cost b/c of fractal, make it unfractable? o:

when that mechanic is added to the game i will jump for joy at the ease of being able to avoid "this + fractal = OP" conundrums.

Fractal causes so many balance problems...

OT- They may have some differences, but ultimately devourer's function and mana larva have the same goal in mind, quanta denial. And this card is twice as good at it.

[moomoose]

morningstar- not to get into semantics, but the purpose of using the card is the same- other than the quanta boost, i think thats what he was getting at.

OT- They may have some differences, but ultimately devourer's function and mana larva have the same goal in mind, quanta denial. And this card is twice as good at it.

Indeed. Twice as good at destroying quanta, but at the loss of generating quanta, the reduced functionality of fractaling, but in a mono deck potentially, and there's a possibility to have this lobo'd or otherwise blocked.  I think that these make for a sufficient difference in the cards to make it an interesting decision in which way to go.  there are reasons to take devourer over worm, and reasons to take worm over devourer.