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Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg178624#msg178624
« on: October 17, 2010, 09:23:49 pm »
Well, I was thinking of a way of increasing the number of mono-Gravity decks, and I thought of an ultimate-gravity pulled creature... So I found about the Neutron Star, a massive entity made entirely of neutrons.

NAME:
Neutron Star
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
:gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|Q
TEXT:
Gravity well: Gravity pull. Immaterial. Any other gravity pulled creature dies.
Q=n° of Gravity quanta
NAME:
Neutron Star
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
:gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|Q
TEXT:
Gravity well: Gravity pull. Immaterial. Any other gravity pulled creature dies.
Q=n° of Gravity quanta
ART:
unupped: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/28/bendy_spacetime/
upped: http://www.physlink.com/news/022404NeutronStarExp.cfm
IDEA:
Krathos
NOTES:
Q=n° of Gravity quanta you posess
Gravity well kills both your creatures and your enemie's when gravity pulled
The HP is calculated after every quanta-generating or consuming device (like pillars, towers, pendulums and permanents)
SERIES:
None
As you can see, it's useful for the extra quanta that mono-Gravity decks always have.
I was thinking of making it a Gravity quanta drainer, but I liked this idea...
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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg178631#msg178631
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2010, 09:30:37 pm »
Hmm, it sounds like Dissipation Field, but it doesn't drain quanta? That's interesting. It means its health is constantly going up each turn... I like it, but it might be OP, if not for the insane cost to summon it, and lack of any way to gain Attack power. Good work.
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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg178838#msg178838
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 02:36:16 am »
is this a kill affect people don't like?
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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg178842#msg178842
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 02:39:51 am »
I guess so.
How about when the creature dies as a result of the effect, you gain it's HP/Something Gravity Quanta?
That would take account it's HP on some level, and would not have the taboo.

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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg178981#msg178981
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 11:58:44 am »
This is an ultimate way to take care of dragons, too. Gravity pull a dragon, play Neutron Star, and suddenly. you've spent a total of 13 Grav quanta, but you've killed a dragon, and have a creature that blocks a ton of damage, depending on quanta levels.
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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg179166#msg179166
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 06:10:45 pm »
is this a kill affect people don't like?
I don't understand what you try to say :P

I guess so.
How about when the creature dies as a result of the effect, you gain it's HP/Something Gravity Quanta?
That would take account it's HP on some level, and would not have the taboo.
You don't win anything. I would have liked it, but there wasn't enough space in the card for one more effect :-\

This is an ultimate way to take care of dragons, too. Gravity pull a dragon, play Neutron Star, and suddenly. you've spent a total of 13 Grav quanta, but you've killed a dragon, and have a creature that blocks a ton of damage, depending on quanta levels.
Yeah, it turns a gravity pull into a instant kill CC, but you are also suceptible to that, remember it ;D

EDIT:
- The HP is calculated after every quanta-generating or consuming device (like pillars, towers, pendulums and permanents)

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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg179171#msg179171
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 06:31:02 pm »
what happen if 2 neutron stars be in arena?

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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg179179#msg179179
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 06:45:33 pm »
Probably one is killed.

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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg179188#msg179188
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 06:53:53 pm »
what happen if 2 neutron stars be in arena?
Probably one is killed.
Exactly.
Actually the last in being played is killed...

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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg179226#msg179226
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2010, 07:56:01 pm »
I like it.

I tried to find a something different for the name (I like names being different on basic and upped cards), but the thing less dense than a neuton star is a white dwarf, which seems odd, and the thing more dense is a quark star, which no one ever heard of, other than some crazy physics major that probably wrote his thesis on the subject.

So, I can't suggest anything there.

As for the card, itself, keep it simple.  Let the HP act just as scarabs, calculated at the end of your turn.

How powerful this can be needs to be measured carefully.  It could be more than a little beastly when combined with certain cards.  The idea of using an eternity to send it back, then replay constantly, comes to mind.  It would prevent deckout as long as the quanta income exists, and assuming 9+ gravity quanta is coming in per turn...it could get ugly, fast, for the enemy.

Heal also comes to mind.  It would be hard to pull off a combo that would provide enough healing to get around all the damage, in many cases, but 30 (6 angels) plus whatever gravity quanta you are gaining at the end of every turn is still going to be amazingly formidable.

I thought of suggesting making it a permanent, but that would likely actually make it stronger.  It would no longer be subject to CC, as well as PC.  As a creature, it can be killed, anything healing it could be killed, and the quantum generation can be destroyed.

That being said, I think its a strong card, but unless a deck were to be made around it, not too strong, and lots of cards appear too strong when decks are designed around them, so...I have to say I REALLY like this one!

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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg179243#msg179243
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2010, 08:21:09 pm »
The idea of using an eternity to send it back, then replay constantly, comes to mind.  It would prevent deckout as long as the quanta income exists, and assuming 9+ gravity quanta is coming in per turn...it could get ugly, fast, for the enemy.

Heal also comes to mind.  It would be hard to pull off a combo that would provide enough healing to get around all the damage, in many cases, but 30 (6 angels) plus whatever gravity quanta you are gaining at the end of every turn is still going to be amazingly formidable.

I thought of suggesting making it a permanent, but that would likely actually make it stronger.  It would no longer be subject to CC, as well as PC.  As a creature, it can be killed, anything healing it could be killed, and the quantum generation can be destroyed.
I must add that the creature is Immaterial. Healing, or Reverse Time can not affect it. Once it's on the field, the only way to remove it is to play Chimera (right?) or have it's Health reach 0.
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Re: Neutron Star | Neutron Star https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14144.msg179244#msg179244
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2010, 08:22:21 pm »
It almost seems that the Neutron Star heals its health back depending on how much Gravity quanta you produce. I know that's not the case, but it's the easiest way to look at it.
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