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Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157173#msg157173
« on: September 12, 2010, 02:45:57 pm »
NAME:
Chaos Seer
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 3
TEXT:
:time :time : Prophecy
Draw two random cards of your mark's element. Discard one of them.
NAME:
Chaos Clairvoyant
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 5
TEXT:
:time :time : Prophecy
Draw two random cards of your mark's element. Discard one of them.
ART:
hawanja http://freakmutantmonster.blogspot.com/2011/03/controllers.html
IDEA:
moomoose (original draw/discard idea kael's http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11446.msg150817#msg150817)
NOTES:
this card was around before the entropy shard, but is a little more restrictive- costing :entropy and :time , and drawing two with selecting one to discard.  making it repeatable, but more expensive, and ultimately taking 3 turns (+1 summoning sickness) to provide the 3 card generation from a single shard, but with slightly more targeted results.

any card that can be drawn by sose can be potentially be drawn through prophecy.
SERIES:
NAME:
Chaos Seer
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
5 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|4
TEXT:
:time :time : Divergent Path
Draw two random cards of your mark's element. Discard one of them.
NAME:
Chaos Clairvoyant
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
5 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|6
TEXT:
:time : Divergent Path
Draw two random cards of your mark's element. Discard one of them.
ART:
Altana http://altana.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2fnq7p
IDEA:
moomoose (original draw/discard idea kael's http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11446.msg150817#msg150817)
NOTES:
Entropy occurs over time, so I figured it was about time there was a card that brought them together.  This limits the use of the card to :entropy :time decks (altho i suppose a trio could be possible now with pendulums?) and rainbows (which would add more strategy as to which mark you want to use in your rainbow relative to the seer/clairvoyant), but this way is probably more interesting this way than a series of seers for each element.

For now I'll go ahead and say that the random draws will not include pillars/pendulums or nymphs, unless some people *really* want pillars/pendulums to pop up when they use it.

Open to changes to the mechanism to make it more balanced (seems like it may be slightly UP to me atm?)
*edit removed series field garbage because that causes rejections these days.
SERIES:
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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157179#msg157179
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 02:52:20 pm »
Draw three cards instead of two? The discard part seems hefty.

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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157183#msg157183
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 03:09:01 pm »
i think its missing time mark on card
im pretty sure there was something similar to this but my mem's fuzzy

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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157196#msg157196
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 03:31:25 pm »
guolin- so how about for its draw 3 discard 2?  the idea is to make a choice of which one of the cards drawn will be your chosen path, rather than "hey, heres a bunch of cards for you to play with, enjoy (both -or- all three)"

yes, astraic, i have not edited that in yet.  that has to be manually edited in every time an edit is made to the card and i will not do that for every version this card goes through.  same with art credit on the card.  that will be added prior to submitting to level 1.

as for an idea similar to this, i mentioned that in the chart- IDEA: moomoose (original draw/discard idea i believe was in kael's shard proposal)  - just modified to include a link, as it was indeed his card.
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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157220#msg157220
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 04:38:28 pm »
Since you know you have to add the quanta symbols, I shall surmise you know you have to credit the artist on the card itself.
Seems fine to me, except I'd give it a bit of attack so it won't be completely useless lobo'd or if you don't want to use its skill in the situation, and to allow it to get pwnd by Fire Shield/Thorn Carapace. 2 attack should be fine.
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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157241#msg157241
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 05:10:35 pm »
Sence this card makes you draw cards of your mark do those cards need to be in your deck of can they just be from that element and from outside the match?

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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157247#msg157247
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 05:15:29 pm »
Sence this card makes you draw cards of your mark do those cards need to be in your deck of can they just be from that element and from outside the match?
Anything from your element.

I like the draw two cards, discard one.  It allows for more options.  Although drawing two and discarding one makes it more stable and thus less Entropy.

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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157409#msg157409
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 08:32:47 pm »
i lost you with "Although drawing two and discarding one makes it more stable and thus less Entropy."  how would you say it is more stable after a discard (isnt tossing something out unstable?) and not to mention the fact that the cards which are drawn are random places it well within entropy's theme.
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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157428#msg157428
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2010, 08:57:36 pm »
nice idea, i like the "of your mark's element" part, it's really interesting
the art is really nice ;)

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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157469#msg157469
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2010, 09:30:03 pm »
i agree give it at least 1 or 2 attack. i like this idea.
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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157529#msg157529
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2010, 11:25:18 pm »
i lost you with "Although drawing two and discarding one makes it more stable and thus less Entropy."  how would you say it is more stable after a discard (isnt tossing something out unstable?) and not to mention the fact that the cards which are drawn are random places it well within entropy's theme.
It offers you the option of two cards.  Even though you only get to keep one it offers more options causing Stability.  Entropy would be totally random and just give you a card of that element.

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Re: Chaos Seer | Chaos Clairvoyant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12518.msg157571#msg157571
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2010, 12:46:51 am »
well if you go from that line of thinking, it is too orderly to have the card drawn be selected from a set element, it would be more random to have it draw a completely random card.  or allowing you to keep a card at all is stable, so it should just let you see the card and then automatically discard it.  could call such an effect "katy perry" (get to see a little, but not really enough to do anything with)

in any event, this is not a pure entropy card, if you really want to think about it deeply, you can consider time being a stabilizing element to the chaos which is why there is a choice and not just pure fate.  two random paths (:entropy) get to choose one (:time) hence it being called divergent path and not fate.
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