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Voodoo Pandemonium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10564.msg129620#msg129620
« on: August 02, 2010, 07:32:19 am »
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Alright, I was wondering if anything could be done with pandemonium, just because I really thought the card had potential. But the upped version is pretty much an unreliable mass-CC, and the unupped version.... well, that was even worse. After ten minutes or so contemplating how pandemonium could possibly be used, I found a nifty little card released in the same update, also left pretty unused; Voodoo doll.

So basically, this is a stall deck, meant to try to hold off enemies until you have a field full of voodoo dolls and a helluva lot of quanta. It doesn't work great against rushes, or permanent control (well, the AI will blow up your hourglasses, which is somewhat bad, but shields gone will directly lead to death). But if you can manage to set up some healing and thorn shield, most enemies should go down with a little help from pandemonium.

Pandemonium has a dual role here; early stall help, as well as endgame finisher. Everything else is just to try to hold on until you're able to pull it off.

Note; It won 5 games out of maybe 20 matches with FGs, where I got air shield first, got some healing, and then thorn shield to finish off anything with more than 2 attack. I've noticed that pandemonium, however, simply doesn't pack enough punch to stop fast rushes/growing rushes that FGs like hermes and obliterator can bring up. Not sure if this is due to meh deck build, or simply a flat-out limit for this deck.

So, suggestions/comments/criticism?

Will be testing a smaller version of this deck tomorrow, just to see if this improves flow;
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Re: Voodoo Pandemonium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10564.msg129626#msg129626
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 07:57:39 am »
try some sundial and Eternity for stalling?

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Re: Voodoo Pandemonium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10564.msg129635#msg129635
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 08:23:19 am »
Try replacing the dark towers with pests. You can fractal them then burrow them so they won't be affected by pandemonium. They would definitely help against divine glory by keeping his fire quanta at bay. I also think you should take out two quantum towers and the aether towers and add six supernovas. Then add in six REGULAR dials for extra stalling. Regular ones mean you are pretty much guaranteed at least one quantum tower to start.

Edit: I'm testing it with basically what I told you to try. It needs two things: an eternity and two or three eclipses. I'm gonna work them in and see how it goes. This is all about the first deck btw. I would have just owned FQ but there's not enough damage with what you currently have.

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Re: Voodoo Pandemonium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10564.msg129646#msg129646
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 09:22:41 am »
Interesting deck... Might work better with a Entropy mark for the Pandemonium; testing now. I really like the idea of spamming that card to kill everything. xD

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Re: Voodoo Pandemonium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10564.msg129657#msg129657
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 10:10:50 am »
Pandemonium doesn't go well with voodoo doll. It's really slow, the RT effect slows you down, and the damage done isn't really that much and can be easily healed.

Re: Voodoo Pandemonium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10564.msg129815#msg129815
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 05:45:38 pm »
You don't want to use pandemonium sporadically. Top damage I've reached with one pandemonium is ~140, you want to hold out until you're certain you can do a one-turn kill, usually with two or three pandemoniums. The only time you want to use them sporadically is if they don't have healing of any sort, and you have a large number of voodoo dolls - or, you need to spend two or three on the enemy to stall them (which the deck accounts for). The upside is that if you can wait that long, the drain life alone can pull your HP up a significant amount (allowed me to EM twice).

Also, was thinking about pests, but I'm worried that the space it would take up would detract from pandemonium - anything more than eight pests would start affecting pandemonium damage, making it a iffy thing even if you wait until you have no cards left to draw.

I like the eternity idea, though; will let the deck hold on longer, meaning that if the deck has managed to stall, it not only gives the possibility of making 1 pandemonium a OHKO, but also gives a chance @ outdecking the FG. :| Would actually make pests viable in such a case.

Sundials might be a good replacement for hourglasses. I'm a bit hesitant to apply supernovas, tho, this deck is prone to bad draws which led me to narrow it down. Supernovas won't help much, as I see it; this deck is definitely not about rushing to put the cards down, and +2 quanta in every slot isn't significant. In the end, I think the one-card space occupied by supernova is a bit too costly if you don't have hourglasses.

I think something important to note is that pandemonium often inflicts gravity pull on a voodoo doll when you have a bunch. It really supplements the deck's early attempt at stalling, when you've also wiped out the enemy's minis (Ferox, Paradox, Osiris, Fire Queen, from what I've faced and beaten).

Notes (edit):
A trident works decently in the deck. But, not usually fast enough to stop FGs like Osiris. Could potentially stop Fire Queen, *has* stopped Eldnis pretty hard.
Sundial modded deck did not win nearly as much as the first posted deck. Not sure why, my guess is that my first deck got lucky. ;P
Pest and eternity versions left untested.

 

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