General: 13 starter decks

[thekillergame]

what's then an alchemy card?>?

[Dragoon1140]

what's then an alchemy card?>?

Any card is used by the Nymph of that element.

[thekillergame]

what's then an alchemy card?>?

Any card is used by the Nymph of that element.

thanks

[xdude]

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[the dictator]

This is what I would do for each element:

15 pillars
3 alchemy cards
3 shields
3 of one creature
3 of another creature
3 of a different card

All mono.

I think we should go with these, just to tweak it a little more:

how about:
15 pillars
2 alchemy cards
2 shields (might be different ones)
3 of a creature
2 of another creature
2 dragons
3 of a spell
1 short sword/hammer

This way each deck has everything.

It has:
pillars
shiels
weapons
creatures
spells

[Scaredgirl]

This is what I would do for each element:

15 pillars
3 alchemy cards
3 shields
3 of one creature
3 of another creature
3 of a different card

All mono.

I think we should go with these, just to tweak it a little more:

how about:
15 pillars
2 alchemy cards
2 shields
3 of a creature
2 of another creature
2 dragons
3 of a spell
1 short sword/hammer

This way each deck has everything.

It has:
pillars
shiels
weapons
creatures
spells

I'm going to work this decks out.

This is exactly how we need to do this. Instead of coming up with different kinds of deck almost by random, we need a system which we will then use for ALL decks. This way the decks almost build themselves.

Here's my version of it:

12 x Pillars
3 x cheap creatures (without abilities)
3 x creatures with abilities
3 x Dragons
2 x shield
2 x alchemy cards (bottles/vials)
2 x permanents/spells
2 x spells
1 x Short Sword/Hammer

Using the formula above, here's the deck:

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And here's the deck:

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This way there is no need for thinking what the individual decks should look like. Just use the formula and the deck builds itself in about a minute.

I will also remind everyone that these starting decks are not supposed to be good decks. They are just a start. You will make them good with those 10 extra cards plus the ones you buy/salvage.

[the dictator]

I agree with scaredgirl. Using my formula you get:

15 pillars
2 alchemy cards
2 shields (might be different ones)
3 of a creature
2 of another creature
2 dragons
3 of a spell
1 short sword/hammer

  entropy

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[Scaredgirl]

I might now be the most objective person to say this but I like my version better.

You have only 7 creatures which is pretty low number I think. 3 + 3 + 3 is better imo.

Also you have no permanents.

[Dragoon]

I used SG's deck methodology for all my decks (including Other).  If they had another permanent besides shield, I always took it over another spell.  If there were more than 1 creature with an ability, I always picked the one that used the same quantum as the deck.  Some elements though only have creatures with abilities that used a different quantum, so that couldn't be helped.

Entropy

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Death

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Gravity

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Earth

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Life (all creatures with abilities used a different quantum)

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Fire

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Water (all creatures with abilities used a different quantum)

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Light

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Air

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Time (All creatures have abilities except dragon so I just added the cheapest creature for the cheap creature category)

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Darkness (All creatures have abilities except dragon so I just added the cheapest creature for the cheap creature category)

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Aether

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Other (I used 6 creatures with abilities instead of 3 dragons; I left the mark blank on purpose)

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[Scaredgirl]

Those look pretty good to me. The 'Other' deck is a bit of a problem though. Seems a bit weird that there are these random 1-2 cards from each element. Maybe it would make more sense to give them a pile of Quantum Pillars and just let them choose the other cards themselves, maybe with a slightly smaller starting deck, like 36 or something.

[GG]

isn't it kinda unfair to include hammers, since gravity and earth gain extra damage from it?

or maybe it's just intended...

[Dragoon]

isn't it kinda unfair to include hammers, since gravity and earth gain extra damage from it?

or maybe it's just intended...

It's 1 extra damage for 1 extra quantum.  Fairly reasonable I think.