Round 1 - Main Topic

[Acsabi44]

Yea I always forget that you can freeze an oppobebt's weapon with bolts (btw, how much chance for that to happen? I mean, what percentage? EDIT never mind I checked the wiki. Cool percentages but not enough to plan strategies on it.)
I thought of freezes since they only cost 1 which is a factor if we face DBH.

[the dictator]

Yea I always forget that you can freeze an oppobebt's weapon with bolts (btw, how much chance for that to happen? I mean, what percentage? EDIT never mind I checked the wiki. Cool percentages but not enough to plan strategies on it.)
I thought of freezes since they only cost 1 which is a factor if we face DBH.

Freeze factor isn't that low, with 10+ quanta (easy to archieve) you already have 50% freeze chance. If the freezing fails, you still have done (some) damage, and you can always try again (with 5 bolts).

And, no, you can't really base a strategy on it (unless you plan on stalling, in which case you should have enough quanta to freeze an eternity), but it is a nice utility, especially against certain decks.

[Daguerreo]

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Maybe for me is better to use a deck more similar to this with, later I'm posting a variation

[Acsabi44]

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Maybe for me is better to use a deck more similar to this with, later I'm posting a variation

- looks underquanta'd but I'll test this
- I'd use ice shields. In this case, don't use upped arsenics and up the shields so there will be no point in stealing the arse (besides you not having it)

EDIT I played 20 or so games with it vs. AI3. It is a bit tight on water quanta but the amount of death is just good. I tried with freezes instead of bolts and it's much better. More often than not I was looking for the freeze effect anyway when I bolted a creature. The deck will never have enough  to actually headshot with bolts so it won't matter.
The deck has a TTW of around 10 which is not terrible since it has distruption as well.

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Man the new death border is fugly.

[Daguerreo]

Meanwhile I'm testing this deck

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[Acsabi44]

Meanwhile I'm testing this deck

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IMO it is way too underpillared. cut the shields. The idea is good though.

[Daguerreo]

This deck is too slow to survive to a rush attack with mummy spiders and dragon IMO...

[Acsabi44]

This deck is too slow to survive to a rush attack with mummy spiders and dragon IMO...

That's totally true.

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this wrecks it. All versions. Ice Shield won't help.

[Daguerreo]

This deck is too slow to survive to a rush attack with mummy spiders and dragon IMO...

That's totally true.

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this wrecks it. All versions. Ice Shield won't help.

Against this we need Arctic Squid and free every thing touch the field. I've played often a poison control deck with chrysaora + squid, if him doesn't have CC can't touch me:

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I've tested a lot this deck: It's enough only one squid to block most of creature enter in game... so try this

[Acsabi44]

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I think I will run this deck vs. Gravity this round, unless somebody has a very serious point against it.
Until then, dic, Rav or Anybody who is responsible, please include this deck as my choice in the decks topic.

[RavingRabbid]

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I think this may work against light.
I thought I was never going to say this.


I MISS THE F-ING FLOODING!

//Possible changes:

Quanta balance: Change it as you wish.
-1 Sanc: This is a possibility.
-1 Miracle: Another possibility.
Remove purifies: Gamble.
Remove ice dragons: Those are there just for some surprise damage, I don't think the deck really needs them. I just seem to put dragons everywhere.

[the dictator]

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I think this may work against light.
I thought I was never going to say this.


I MISS THE F-ING FLOODING!

//Possible changes:

Quanta balance: Change it as you wish.
-1 Sanc: This is a possibility.
-1 Miracle: Another possibility.
Remove purifies: Gamble.
Remove ice dragons: Those are there just for some surprise damage, I don't think the deck really needs them. I just seem to put dragons everywhere.

You mean death?