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How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg33222#msg33222
« on: March 05, 2010, 06:59:16 am »
Mono-Fire is an extraordinarily fast and soul-crushing deck to play against.  Your shields?  Gone.  Your creatures?  Gone.   Poison?  Too slow, and Physalia dies to Fire Shield in a hearbeat.  Even the mighty Arctic Octopus is nigh unto useless once that Shield hits the field.

And playing the waiting game?  Oh, no.  A solitary Fahrenheit will melt you in 7 or 8 turns.  You need action, and you need it now.

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Hence: The Master of Water's Anti-Fire Deck. 

Ice Lances take out Ruby Dragons and Lava Destroyers in one hit regardless of your quanta total, and 6 of them make for plenty of ammo.  Congeals buy time to build up to 10 quanta if the opponent plays a Crimson Dragon or Fire Spectre. 

Abyssal Crawlers are tough hitters, netting you more than 1/3 of the enemy's life total before dying (if un-Bolted).   Arctic Dragons are extremely expensive, but deal in 2 hits as much as their unupgraded counterpart deals in 3 -- and they still take a 10-quanta Lance to kill, so if your opponent has just put out his Rubies, you know your Dragon will likely live to strike a second time...but his won't!

Explosions are trivial; you've got plenty of Towers and no other permanents to fuss over.  Rain of Fire is easily mitigated by only putting out two creatures at a time.  The only real hope the Fire player has is to get a very early Cremation+Crimson Dragon before you get enough quanta to kill it in one Lance (and he has to hope you haven't drawn a Congeal for it.) --- or to sit back and nuke your creatures and let a Fahrenheit whittle you down enough that simul-casting 3 Dragons will munch you to death in one turn.  (The solution?  Surprise him to death with a barrage of Ice Lances and a sudden Dragon of your own the turn before he can do it to you.  :-* )
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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg33240#msg33240
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2010, 07:56:53 am »
I like it...would like to see Permafrost in there, but I understand it's a speed deck, and Perma is way too costly :(

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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg33331#msg33331
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2010, 03:24:26 pm »
Really, it's not about the cost -- it's about the fact that Mono-Fire will Explode it in a heartbeat, so it'll just be a wasted card. :)
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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg33335#msg33335
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2010, 03:29:31 pm »
true that...sorry, sometimes I don't think properly :)

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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg33457#msg33457
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 07:38:57 pm »
Honestly if you think about it, taking permafrost in this deck wouldn't slow it down. In relation to your opponent, it would actually speed you up. Not only does it take away two damage per hit, it can freeze. If you slow down your opponent drastically by playing a single card, that card is quite playable in a speed deck in my opinion. Like Essence said though, it wouldn't work too well against deflag, or any other elements with permanent control.

On a side note, Essence, I'd be interested in seeing how this deck would work against other speed decks with permafrost shields thrown in, and/or tridents+earth mark.

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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg48206#msg48206
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2010, 05:37:03 am »
phoenixes are gonna wreck this deck lol.... I tried a phoenix rush deck and it pretty much owns...... u might need to use permafrost after all

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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg48406#msg48406
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2010, 08:04:17 pm »
Ya, permafrost is kind of annoying when you're using phoenixes. Fire shield is the worst though.

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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg48491#msg48491
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2010, 12:29:30 am »
The vast majority of Fire decks pack at least 1 Explosion; I think 2 is the norm. Adding 1 or 2 Permafrosts to this deck would make them immediate targets for Explosion, slowing down both your quantum production (you're paying 7 :water) and your draw power.

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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg48520#msg48520
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2010, 12:55:12 am »
Besides, Phoenixes are either expensive (unupped) or low-damage (upped).  Either way, you have a little time to respond intelligently.  If you suspect your mono-fire opponent is packing Phoenixes, use your Congeals to delay the beatdown until you have saved up 32 Water Quanta, at which point you can use a pair of Ice Bolts to permanently kill a Phoenix -- 1 for the bird, 1 for the Ash.
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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg61186#msg61186
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 01:32:05 pm »
Maybe your deck is good to crush mono-fire, but it won't do much against other decks. I tried it out and I don't seem to be as all-round as I am right now with my deck. I know your post is all about killing those mono-fire, but I don't think it's else viable. Tho, what is paradoxal is mono-fire is usually then one I lose most of the time, stupid faraneith!

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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg61822#msg61822
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2010, 06:18:19 pm »
i think this deck works good,it can defeat firebolt decks with a fast rush and phoenix with congeal. nice job  :D
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Re: How to Crush Mono-Fire. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg121613#msg121613
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2010, 02:41:22 am »
Im wondering how this is anti fire? Only Ice Lances isnt anti fire. toadfishes and ice lances are anti fire but since this is a mono water deck i guess i can under stand.

 

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