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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1100767#msg1100767
« Reply #108 on: October 04, 2013, 07:43:16 pm »
I understand the aversion of voting for propaganda -- I've seen how it was abused in the past. On the other hand, I also see the point, that some teams put a lot more effort to produce something nice, entertaining and fun and it feels fair that they shoul dbe rewarded more than those who choose the easy way to create a post with minimal effort.

I would suggest a system, where propaganda can earn upto X cards -- decided and awarded by the WMs, not by public voting. So if it was decided that propaganda can earn upto 10 cards, then when the deadline for propaganda is reached, the WMs would discuss and award some cards to each team, e.g. 0 card for not submitting anything, a few cards for easy-out humorous posts and 8-10 cards for involved, interesting submissions. It wouldn't need to be a full ordering, multiple teems could get 10 cards if they submitted very nice work.
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1100770#msg1100770
« Reply #109 on: October 04, 2013, 07:50:40 pm »
Just because i'm curious : i haven't seen any arguments against removing propaganda yet. :3
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1100771#msg1100771
« Reply #110 on: October 04, 2013, 07:57:10 pm »
Just because i'm curious : i haven't seen any arguments against removing propaganda yet. :3
Why when you can just do this and get cards?

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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1100772#msg1100772
« Reply #111 on: October 04, 2013, 07:57:45 pm »
Just because i'm curious : i haven't seen any arguments against removing propaganda yet. :3
I actually enjoyed reading propaganda. I think it would be a loss if we would lose it, even if I can see it disadvantages.
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1100775#msg1100775
« Reply #112 on: October 04, 2013, 08:03:20 pm »
Just because i'm curious : i haven't seen any arguments against removing propaganda yet. :3
I actually enjoyed reading propaganda. I think it would be a loss if we would lose it, even if I can see it disadvantages.

Make a propaganda board, don't mention it in rules. Teams will post there themselves if they feel like it, and if nobody posts there, then I guess nobody wants propaganda

Not going to comment on present situation of only Entropy being penalized since I can't be a neutral third party in this case. If it's to be discussed, it's to be discussed by the other 11 teams and WMs. Only wanted to point out that propaganda could be removed without removing it
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1100818#msg1100818
« Reply #113 on: October 04, 2013, 10:33:44 pm »
Just because i'm curious : i haven't seen any arguments against removing propaganda yet. :3
Why when you can just do this and get cards?

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,51415.0.html
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1100824#msg1100824
« Reply #114 on: October 04, 2013, 11:06:08 pm »
Just because i'm curious : i haven't seen any arguments against removing propaganda yet. :3
Why when you can just do this and get cards?

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,51415.0.html
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1100838#msg1100838
« Reply #115 on: October 04, 2013, 11:54:20 pm »
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1100964#msg1100964
« Reply #116 on: October 05, 2013, 04:23:57 pm »
There was one war where propaganda was removed IIRC.

The result was that players promoted their element and trashed others in the war main topic.

So WMs reopened propagana treads and I think everybody was happy with that. Players still posted pics, songs, epic speeches and whatnot in the propaganda topics, but there were no rules regarding propaganda. I think everybody was all right with that.
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1102604#msg1102604
« Reply #117 on: October 11, 2013, 01:10:53 pm »
There should be a rule, if a team had two Generals as opponents in Round 1, the max. amount of Generals as opponents for next Round should be ONE.
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1102607#msg1102607
« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2013, 01:32:50 pm »
It is very unlikely that each team faces exactly one general by pure RNG, hence it is very likely for some teams to have to face 2 generals (or more depending on how many matches there are) and for some teams to face no generals. :darkness just got the short end of the RNG-stick this round (just like :life and :aether), no need for a new rule.
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Re: War #7 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50864.msg1102612#msg1102612
« Reply #119 on: October 11, 2013, 01:45:15 pm »
Odii raises the question: how much do we want RNG outside of the matchs played? Bo5 format implies RNG within the matchs themselves is even desirable to minimize

 

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