War #7 - Round 9

[Acsabi44]

BTW a quick comparsion:

  5 players fight, 216 cards, so its 216/5= 43.2 cards/ player
  48
  47
  46

So its about even, maybe aether has a slight disadvantage, but on the other hand they also have the biggest reserve vault:

 : 216- (5*30)= 66
  144- (3*30)= 54
  141- (3*30)= 51
  138- (3*30)= 48

[deuce22]

From a vault standpoint it is relatively even, and technically, aether has more wiggle room for losses. However, we are more likely to lose because we play more matches and we will be at a significant upgrade disadvantage.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

From a vault standpoint it is relatively even, and technically, aether has more wiggle room for losses. However, we are more likely to lose because we play more matches and we will be at a significant upgrade disadvantage.

Just use those 9001 relics you saved that we needed to get into top 4

[hainkarga]

As far as knowing vaults goes, you are seeing the issue like a kindergarden kid would see; "i see yours, you see mine, so we are equal"

Since team aether's vault is huge, they can follow, say, 20 different strategies which diminish the benefits of your knowledge of their vault. Other teams have very limited options and therefore way, way, way more predictable, hence at a disadvantage.

Fielding more players due to less ups is disadvantage, but having huge vault IS greatly advantegous. It is very pathetic of you to attempt to make it look the same.  (:

And dismissing what i say by appealing to public with your generic weak template argument of "hain is a troll" is so weak that it makes me lose all hope in the human race.

[treebeard xiii]

from my understanding haink may troll at times but he also speaks with wisdom at times. Yes seeing vaults helps for the mindgating but because of the number of decks that could be fielded per match means aether still has the advantage if your so bothered don't be so op next time

[Vangelios]

And not sure what you are referring to about needing to know other opponents decks???

I think you know all our decks just as well as we know yours so its all fair 

no,no.nuuuuu....

I mean, the decks that will be used in the duel, not the decks that can be used or not.
 the complaint deuce is: "which means predictions are nearly completely random."
what he wanted, it was entirely predictable?, and yet he used the term "are nearly random" which means you have more chances of predictions than other teams.
then you have an advantage, because for aether is "nearly completely random"
but for the other teams are completely random;

[hainkarga]

Here is a very simplified game theory variation table for your better understanding deuce. It involves a situation where all teams know each of their vault and every possible strategy. Numbers are mostly random but you can see it comes easier for you to predict where we will have to shit bricks trying to do that. It wouldn't be equal even if you knew only size of our vaults and we knew your whole vault.

Team Aether Pov:

		Strategy 1	Strategy 2	Strategy 3	Strategy 4	Strategy 5	Strategy 6	Strategy 7	Strategy 8
Team Air	Strategy 1 Strategy 2	-1 -1	-1 +1	-1 +1	+1 -1	-1 +1	-1 +1	+1 +1	-1 -1
Team Gravity	Strategy 1 Strategy 2	+1 -1	+1 -1	-1 -1	-1 -1	-1 -1	-1 +1	-1 +1	-1 -1
Team Time	Strategy 1 Strategy 2	+1 -1	-1 -1	-1 +1	-1 -1	+1 +1	+1 -1	+1 -1	+1 -1

This is only 1 depth strategy table with only 2 possible outcomes (win or lose just 1 match) assuming you got 8 strategies. But if you involve coming rounds, yours will increase exponentially and you have laid back options like suiciding thanks to your vault size. We have no rational idea what aether is going to field vs us. How many options do you think we have vs you ?

[Laxadarap]

This is only 1 depth strategy table with only 2 possible outcomes (win or lose just 1 match) assuming you got 8 strategies. But if you involve coming rounds, yours will increase exponentially and you have laid back options like suiciding thanks to your vault size. We have no rational idea what aether is going to field vs us. How many options do you think we have vs you ?

This, in the later stages of this war, aether was essentially impossible to predict.

[rob77dp]

This is only 1 depth strategy table with only 2 possible outcomes (win or lose just 1 match) assuming you got 8 strategies. But if you involve coming rounds, yours will increase exponentially and you have laid back options like suiciding thanks to your vault size. We have no rational idea what aether is going to field vs us. How many options do you think we have vs you ?

This, in the later stages of this war, aether was essentially impossible to predict.

Hooray for Death facing them Round 5-8!!  *along with Round 1 and Round 3 (by rule, basically - twice Rounds 1-4)*

[Avenger]

Here is a very simplified game theory variation table for your better understanding deuce. It involves a situation where all teams know each of their vault and every possible strategy. Numbers are mostly random but you can see it comes easier for you to predict where we will have to shit bricks trying to do that. It wouldn't be equal even if you knew only size of our vaults and we knew your whole vault.

Team Aether Pov:

		Strategy 1	Strategy 2	Strategy 3	Strategy 4	Strategy 5	Strategy 6	Strategy 7	Strategy 8
Team Air	Strategy 1 Strategy 2	-1 -1	-1 +1	-1 +1	+1 -1	-1 +1	-1 +1	+1 +1	-1 -1
Team Gravity	Strategy 1 Strategy 2	+1 -1	+1 -1	-1 -1	-1 -1	-1 -1	-1 +1	-1 +1	-1 -1
Team Time	Strategy 1 Strategy 2	+1 -1	-1 -1	-1 +1	-1 -1	+1 +1	+1 -1	+1 -1	+1 -1

This is only 1 depth strategy table with only 2 possible outcomes (win or lose just 1 match) assuming you got 8 strategies. But if you involve coming rounds, yours will increase exponentially and you have laid back options like suiciding thanks to your vault size. We have no rational idea what aether is going to field vs us. How many options do you think we have vs you ?

Whatever. The problem is that shouldn't this extreme rubber banding phase 2 happen, we already would have won.
You would complain in our place too.
Come on, we lost all we gained

[hainkarga]

Whatever. The problem is that shouldn't this extreme rubber banding phase 2 happen, we already would have won.
You would complain in our place too.
Come on, we lost all we gained

Personally i think aether was clearly better than everyone else this war and deserves to win more than others. However, your evil and ridicilous bitching about stuff every round just makes you look petty and pisses me off to the point where i want to launch a satanic crusade campaign against your puny countries with a horde of amoral barbarians, then rip your hearts with my bare hands and pee in your graves while forcing your offspring to watch, essentially making them all future batmans.

Rules are rules and noone is abusing them unlike before, so suck it up. I'd prefer you to stop infuriating me even tho i enjoy pain sometimes because it makes people feel alive.

[Higurashi]

^
That's a line. It's apparent I have to draw it out for y'all. Now that you can see it, don't cross it again and we can have a somewhat civil discussion that's on topic. Personal attacks will continue to be deleted and warnings will subsequently be handed out.