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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg474110#msg474110
« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2012, 08:57:35 am »
I might have missed this, so hopefully no hate :V

How intertwined are War team+Support team? Do they have access to our secret section? How much are we allowed to help them, etc?
Not access to secret section, allowed to help as much as you wish iirc.
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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg474137#msg474137
« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2012, 11:51:28 am »
I might have missed this, so hopefully no hate :V

How intertwined are War team+Support team? Do they have access to our secret section? How much are we allowed to help them, etc?
Not access to secret section, allowed to help as much as you wish iirc.
I don't see this mentioned anywhere, but I would hope they would have access to secret sections.

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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg474139#msg474139
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2012, 12:19:15 pm »
I might have missed this, so hopefully no hate :V

How intertwined are War team+Support team? Do they have access to our secret section? How much are we allowed to help them, etc?
Not access to secret section, allowed to help as much as you wish iirc.
I don't see this mentioned anywhere, but I would hope they would have access to secret sections.
I hope not. There needs to be something that separates the team from the support team. You can have people come into the secret chat if you wish, though.
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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg474141#msg474141
« Reply #75 on: March 25, 2012, 01:09:32 pm »
How intertwined are War team+Support team? Do they have access to our secret section? How much are we allowed to help them, etc?
2.1. SECRET FORUM SECTION
Each team has their secret forum section only visible to team members, Warmasters and forum Administrator.  Support Team members do not have access to the team’s secret section.  All discussions held in this secret section are to be kept a secret.
This should clarify everything :P let me anticipate that team members will exchange many PMs with their supporters to help them and not to lose their shiny relics. It's ok this way, the support team maintains logistics outside while the team members are sitting at their own secret round table. And kudos to the organizers for allowing everyone to play an active and invaluable role in the event.

Also posting this to keep track, of course, I'm really looking forward to this and don't want to miss the auction ;)
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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg474144#msg474144
« Reply #76 on: March 25, 2012, 01:18:40 pm »
Thanks for posting that drolly.

IMO, I think support members should have access to secret sections.

This now brings up the question that as it gets later in war, should only the General and Lt have access to secret sections since everyone else will be on the support team?

And I thought this was a team event, and I would consider support players as part of the team, so they should have just as much access as everyone else.

They will receive a forum icon for winning war, but no access to secret sections?

As drolly also alluded to, it will be much easier to coordinate matches and deckbuilding if support players have access to the same forums as the rest of the team.

These are just my opinions, feel free to disagree.

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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg474147#msg474147
« Reply #77 on: March 25, 2012, 01:38:51 pm »
As drolly also alluded to, it will be much easier to coordinate matches and deckbuilding if support players have access to the same forums as the rest of the team.
I've just reread my post and seen that someone could take it to be ironic (no, you didn't do that, deuce) :o I didn't intend it to be this way, I was merely thinking that the permissions to access secret sections would fit the theme of a "support team" very nicely. However, I partly agree with deuce that they can make things complicated sometimes ... how about a section inbetween which is accessible by team members and supporters and meant to organize battles (especially deckbuilding) at the support lines but not at the battlefront? Given the support team is only loosely intertwined with the warriors, they are not intended to know much about the strategies of the latter.
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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg474188#msg474188
« Reply #78 on: March 25, 2012, 03:36:45 pm »
The current plan is for initial support teams to not have access, but to not take away access as players move to support team from main team.  There's a number of reasons to do it this way, but the largest are a) sadly, if Team Aether needs to permanently replace a player, they'll have to draw from an initial support team player on Team Air, for instance.  The Team Air support player obviously can't have seen Team Aether's vault.  b) We can't take access from players who move from main to support because roles and player order are now completely movable.  If Team Aether's Lt is afk for a round, Aether needs to be able to swap the role and player order with someone else the General had originally drafted.

This is obviously the first time we've done things this way and trying to include everyone who wants to be involved will come with it some hiccups.  So the rules may undergo small changes mid-event and we'll all just have to remain flexible.

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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg474218#msg474218
« Reply #79 on: March 25, 2012, 04:58:46 pm »
The current plan is for initial support teams to not have access, but to not take away access as players move to support team from main team.  There's a number of reasons to do it this way, but the largest are a) sadly, if Team Aether needs to permanently replace a player, they'll have to draw from an initial support team player on Team Air, for instance.  The Team Air support player obviously can't have seen Team Aether's vault.  b) We can't take access from players who move from main to support because roles and player order are now completely movable.  If Team Aether's Lt is afk for a round, Aether needs to be able to swap the role and player order with someone else the General had originally drafted.

This is obviously the first time we've done things this way and trying to include everyone who wants to be involved will come with it some hiccups.  So the rules may undergo small changes mid-event and we'll all just have to remain flexible.
Regarding the a) issue... Why not simply have a support player from Team Aether as a replacement for Team Aether? Why involve another team? Penalty for substitution: now you have an inactive support player, and have paid him for nothing.
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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg475884#msg475884
« Reply #80 on: March 30, 2012, 05:09:00 pm »
Rule update:

If there are uneven number of players fighting during a round, the team with the most cards gets the bye, meaning that one player in that team will skip the round.

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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg475893#msg475893
« Reply #81 on: March 30, 2012, 05:13:25 pm »
Rule update:

If there are uneven number of players fighting during a round, the team with the most cards gets the bye, meaning that one player in that team will skip the round.
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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg475914#msg475914
« Reply #82 on: March 30, 2012, 05:41:27 pm »
basically, the #1 team could get multiple byes, correct?

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Re: War #5 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37505.msg475917#msg475917
« Reply #83 on: March 30, 2012, 05:45:52 pm »
Rule update:

If there are uneven number of players fighting during a round, the team with the most cards gets the bye, meaning that one player in that team will skip the round.
I support this!
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