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Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244561#msg244561
« on: January 10, 2011, 04:17:18 pm »
With this deck I've never lost on AI3. Ofc, you must know just a bit how to play the game :)
Even if it seems you are going to lose play till the end, and you will win.

NB: the deck is almost base on another one i've found in this forum, I don't remember who posted it, so if you know please give credits to him/her. I've slightly modify the deck adding 1 more Lycanthrope and removing shield or weapon (i dont remember).

So I usually do something like this: I grind 3x time on Elder and then move once on t50, if i'm lucky i'm in the 40% cases else I haven't lost much.

/cheers!

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Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244566#msg244566
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 04:23:27 pm »
Looks a lot like plastique's No Land Stompy, which I used for a long time (until I could afford USEM) with great results.

But it does not win 100% of the time, and I can see flaming coming because of that  :P

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Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244591#msg244591
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 05:27:19 pm »
hehe  :D I'll not flame for that. I haven't loose yet, but let's if not 100% it's very close 90%+

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Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244614#msg244614
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 06:04:53 pm »
I haven't loose yet, but let's if not 100% it's very close 90%+
And thats the point...sometime you WILL have a bad draw and loose the game, how matter how good the deck might be ;)

If you dont want people yell at you  "you´re wrong" or even worse stuff like "liar", i would be very careful with absolute expressions...ithough i wont go that way  ;D

How big was your sample size? Cause any well build AI3 will achieve quite big winning streaks..even unupped...just take a look at the current ttw-study in General Discussion...there are quite some unupped decks with winning ratios of 90%+
e.g. The original No Land Stompy in the current ttw-study features 24 losses in 200 games... and i dont see that your changes increase that winning ratio by a significant amount...

Last thing, before i comment on the deck: Grinding AI3 is imo not only about the winning ratio, its more about having a deck with high winning ratio thats FAST!

Concerning the deck, i have to say that i didnt test it (it has been quite some time since I last played No Land Stompy), so this is just my feeling about it:

I dont think that additional lycanthrope does fit well...you will probably be able to grow 1, so you maybe want to draw 1, but not more...so worst case: you draw all three of them...2 dead cards.

The point of Arsenic, which you removed, was that it used a different quanta, so you would have another damage source with few novas/immolations...

The replacement of the Rage potion for another deflagration might be change to improve the deck idea against new Elders, though. imho, permanents are much more of a threat for rush decks then creatures are...but one has to mention that you sacrificed the the nice rage potion/lycanthrope combo (11/1^^) Change might slow deck down again ;)

In conclusion: Thanks for sharing your ideas, honestly! You took the build of the third fastest AI3 grinder atm and made your own modification. As long as its fun for you, everything is great.

But i have to admit that i believe your changes slow the deck without offering more versatility in change. Sorry.





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Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244665#msg244665
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 08:34:22 pm »
oh well, kk :)
If you have time, please try it.

PS: what's a more then decent half upgraded (not fully upgraded) deck for top50 grind?

Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244666#msg244666
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 08:39:15 pm »
oh well, kk :)
If you have time, please try it.

PS: what's a more then decent half upgraded (not fully upgraded) deck for top50 grind?
I think you can start to upgrade this deck! With 12 card upgrades (immo and lava) you can win a lot of games in t50!!

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Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244676#msg244676
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2011, 08:58:49 pm »
oh well, kk :)
If you have time, please try it.

PS: what's a more then decent half upgraded (not fully upgraded) deck for top50 grind?
Well, that kind of depends on your upped cards ;)

For me these decks were/are quite decent:

My variant of Vreelys Fire Rush:

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I preferred this one over No Land Stompy mainly because it felt a bit more stable to me and novas PLUS immolations for a mono felt like wasting tons of quanta...

Also liked kevkevs Grabbix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html)

But i cant really estimate how they would do today, as T50 sees quite some flying vampire daggers/crusaders atm...
 
As soon as i could afford it, i switched towards healbows...currently i run a healbow variant of BPs Da Supa Rush for T50farming...but thats fully upped ;)

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Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244678#msg244678
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2011, 09:02:55 pm »
thanks all :)

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Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244682#msg244682
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2011, 09:16:08 pm »
Però, gran nome.
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Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg244683#msg244683
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2011, 09:17:04 pm »
Però, gran nome.
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Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg245028#msg245028
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 09:56:29 am »
What do you think should be better to upgrade in this deck?
Now that i've spinned Arsenic (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Arsenic) I've removed 1 Lycanthrope (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Lycanthrope) in favor of the weapon.

So ...
Wich cards should I upgrade first? Immolation (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Immolation), Arsenic (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Arsenic) or maybe turn 2 Phoenix (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Phoenix) in minor and remove the 2 Fire Spirit (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Spirit)?

Any advice is welcome, thanks!
/Cheers.  :)

Re: Unupped AI3 100% victories (40% on t50) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19245.msg245118#msg245118
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 02:41:13 pm »
First Immolation for giving more speed as possible!! Then lava golem (+2 atk looks a little improvement...but if you think that in 5 turns---> 2*5=10 more damage...is very good!)

 

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