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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147435#msg1147435
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2014, 02:46:50 am »
To be updated as I go, but starting it off now.

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Spoiler for Task 1:
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I felt that :light's greatest weakness was its lack of (reliable) in-element CC.  While damaging CC seems against the core philosophy of :light, I wanted to explore the potential of reducing ATK as a form of CC.  As a result, I created the card pacify, which reduces the ATK of all creatures by 1.  (Like Pandemonium, the upped version only affects opposing creatures).  While some in my CIA thread expressed concerns over the high cost, I personally feel that the card would become overpowered if the cost were reduced.  Furthermore, while some desire to see it implemented as a permanent, I instead believe that the card should function as a spell as a way of creating a meaningful counterplay opportunity for the opponent - if you suspect pacify is in your opponent's deck, it is wise to withhold at least some of your creatures until after the spell is played.  This card functions as CC and synergizes well with cards already in the light element, such as Sanctuary and Miracle - reducing the potential of your opponent's creatures to kill you, while you heal up consistently and reliably.  Synergizing with DR shields, especially Hope, also provides extremely powerful damage mitigation opportunities for a :light player.

I feel this card could serve as an improvement to :light's classic deckout :earth/ :light stall, known to some as "Shine Bright Like a Diamond" or "The Immortal Stall", and to others merely as "Mira/SS".  The original version of the deck focused on Miracles, Sancs, Stone Skin, and Diamond Shield to create a brutal DR and healing barrier that many opponents would lack the damage to overcome.  However, in War 7, the deck struggled to lock opposing decks down as hard as it needed to.  I propose adding 4 copies of Pacify to the deck in exchange for 2 quanta cards and a stone skin (increasing the size by 1 to 41) to create a more effective version, and being 1 card larger than 40 card opposing stalls is very useful.  Such a deck is posted here, with relics standing in for the copies of Pacify.

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This deck could be played by any rank in War, as the only upgrades really needed are the Diamond Shields, with Miracles and Quanta being optional extra upgrades.  Under no circumstances should Pacify be upgraded, as the cost increases, and SBLAD uses no creatures of its own, so no benefit is gained from the upgrade.

The new and improved SBLAD, much like the old version, fares best against creature based rushes, especially adrenarushes and low ATK creature rushes.  It has significantly improved performance against momentum-based decks, as Pacify still lowers their ATK, where previous shield usages weren't able to mitigate momentumed damage at all.  Additionally, the use of Pacify alongside the Sanctuaries should buy enough time for large quanta to build up for Stone Skin usages, which in turn leads to higher healing Miracles.
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Duel of the Economists
(This can be played as either upped or unupped tournament.)

Shards are not banned by default, but most shards are banned by later rules.

Players must choose one of two paths to play with any given deck.  Players may switch paths between games.

Path 1: No Free Lunch
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Path 2: Tragedy of the Commons
-Players are limited to 6 or fewer quanta sources in their deck.  The deck's mark does not count towards this limit.
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I decided to use :light's naturally high quanta costs as an advantage on the "No Free Lunch" path.  Since other players using "No Free Lunch" decks are likely to have large creatures, using a Gravity Shield can stop many of them.  Furthermore, Crusader + Titan is a combo that will allow me to deal massive damage past Dimensional Shields, which I expect would be popular in many decks.  Finally, using Shard of Focus, one of the only legal shards in the tournament, lets me swallow up precious permanents, especially swallowing quanta sources from opponents on the Tragedy of the Commons path.  The resulting Black Holes would be devastating.  Discord would have potential to destroy a deck like this, but it is banned under both paths, since it is a rare that costs 3.  Finally, Armagio is a card that can serve as an extension to my Health, should an opponent have a threatening rush, and provides a good outlet for :gravity generated after I get my early Titan, SoFo, and GShield out.  The ratio of pends to pillars seems about right, even though not a ton of :gravity is needed in total, since I need my key :gravity cards out quickly.

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Deck Analysis: The Angel's Gate

The Angel's Gate is one of the decks used by :light several times in War, a deck which uses the high HP, high damage creatures that the :light element has, in combination with the creature healing of Archangels, to be virtually CC immune.  When joined with the player healing of Light Nymphs and Miracles, in order to create a deck which can outlast the opponent long enough for the damage to add up.

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Two matches for :light using the deck can be found below
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The :light army tended to use this deck most often when they had a large number of upgrades, though only the Archangels seem like a truly mandatory upgrade. (Without them, the damage of this deck would likely be insufficient.)



These two cards are the core of the deck and the most important upgrades, as Archangel forces the opponent to burn two CC cards on a single turn to kill even a single creature (barring a sufficiently funded bolt spell, of course), while dealing a respectable 7 damage of its own, and Improved Miracle gives the player massive healing at 3 :light cheaper than its upgraded counterpart.  In a deck that uses large amounts of :light quanta, having a 3 quanta discount on the most important spell gives a much higher chance of it being available when needed.

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The two remaining creatures in this deck, Golden Dragon and Light Nymph, much like Archangel, fit the paradigm of high cost for high ATK and high HP.  By having more than 5 HP, they are resistant to most single CC cards, and can be healed up by Archangels if damaged.  Their high damage helps the deck overcome DR shields and/or healing.  Morning Star, as an Immaterial Weapon, cannot be stolen or exploded, and therefore provides similarly reliable damage.  Finally, Light Nymph's Luciferin ability and Sanctuary's healing synergize with Miracle to make the player of this deck very hard to kill.  Sanctuary also prevents quanta denial from the opponent, such as Discord or Black Hole, which could devastate a deck like this one that uses such expensive cards.

In the first linked match, Hyroen uses this deck to defeat Acsabi's fiery Dragon/Phoenix/Destroyer rush, using his superior healing to outlast Acsabi until his damage can win.  Acsabi notes that "It's hard to rush when your opponent has 200 or 300 HP," showcasing the potential of this deck to outlast rushes with healing before finishing them with damage.  Acsabi's 4 fire bolts prove inadequate to control the creatures in this deck.

In the latter match, Annele uses the "Immortal Stall" (also known as "Shine Bright Like a Diamond") against this deck of Mesaprotector.  Unfortunately for Mesaprotector, Annele's incredible survival potential is more than enough to overcome Angel's Gate's damage. 

In conclusion, this deck serves :light well against rushy decks, using healing to prevent :light's death before turning the tables with control-resistant strong damage, but the deck lacks the damage output to beat true stalls from opposing sides.   
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147436#msg1147436
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2014, 02:58:33 am »
Welcome Elkie - this is getting exciting!
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147470#msg1147470
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2014, 10:56:14 am »
Welcome Elk!

I knew about him, but Jen was a big surprise for me. Good luck you two!
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147474#msg1147474
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2014, 11:13:16 am »
Likewise, I knew Krzys was going to trial for :light, but was surprised to see Jen!

Good luck to you both, let's have a fun, fair, and competitive trial!
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147511#msg1147511
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2014, 04:07:38 pm »
This is shaping up to be an exciting trial, too bad I am not qualified to join... :(
Oh, well maybe next time. ;)

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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147747#msg1147747
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2014, 03:56:07 am »

41 seconds to beat an AI4 Jen...not bad.

Slow, but not bad.
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147761#msg1147761
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2014, 08:42:25 am »

41 seconds to beat an AI4 Jen...not bad.

Slow, but not bad.

Don't even look how bad I did it :P
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147859#msg1147859
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2014, 03:35:52 am »
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This deck could be played by any rank in War, as the only upgrades really needed are the Diamond Shields, with Miracles and Quanta being optional extra upgrades.  Under no circumstances should Pacify be upgraded, as the cost increases, and SBLAD uses no creatures of its own, so no benefit is gained from the upgrade.
That's a cool build, but no one ever calls this deck "SBLAD."

It's name is Stonacle.
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147860#msg1147860
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2014, 03:44:05 am »
I could have sworn that deck is called The Immortal in all the earth war docs...
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147861#msg1147861
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2014, 03:49:24 am »
I could have sworn that deck is called The Immortal in all the earth war docs...

Judging by chat commentary, "The Immortal Stall" is the most common name for the deck, but mesaprotector "got creative" in the :light vault in War 6, thus creating the name SBLAD (which was the first name I saw for this deck).  I made sure to include both variants in my post as a result.
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147862#msg1147862
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2014, 03:52:19 am »
[09:24:53] ‹RootRanger› I found a really cool shirt, but it's SBLAD. I prefer wearing stripes.
[09:24:53] ‹Malignant› Then just call it "499 HP again fuck you!". People will surely know that.
[09:25:24] ‹theelkspeaks› SBLAD is a nice name, Immortal Stall is misleading, and Mira/SS is identifying
[09:25:25] ‹RootRanger› My favorite dictator is SBLADimir Putin.

[09:26:59] ‹RootRanger› How about Stonacle?
[09:27:24] ‹Guest-Lycanthrope-cddb2› ...stonacle?
[09:27:58] ‹Malignant› It's like a monocle.
[09:28:06] ‹Guest-Lycanthrope-cddb2› Getting stone skin from Oracle?

[09:28:58] ‹RootRanger› There's the classic name: Miracle/SS. The common name: Immortal. The new name: SBLAD.
[09:29:06] ‹RootRanger› And...the dark horse: STONACLE!

[09:31:10] ‹Guest-Lycanthrope-cddb2› Miraskin
[09:31:35] ‹Guest-Lycanthrope-cddb2› I am telling you. Miraskin.
[09:32:05] ‹Malignant› Miraskin sounds like a product you should be selling
[09:32:48] ‹RootRanger› ‹@theelkspeaks› Umm...you neglected to include "Stonacle" and "Mr. Skin"
[09:32:54] ‹Guest-Lycanthrope-cddb2› Miraskin. 500 HP and a warm bottle of -censored-.

That should provide enough context...
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55053.msg1147866#msg1147866
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2014, 07:55:25 am »
I could have sworn that deck is called The Immortal in all the earth war docs...

Judging by chat commentary, "The Immortal Stall" is the most common name for the deck, but mesaprotector "got creative" in the :light vault in War 6, thus creating the name SBLAD (which was the first name I saw for this deck).  I made sure to include both variants in my post as a result.
As a member of war light team 6# I remember Sblad standing for,  Shine bright like a diamond. Which is a quite cool name for a deck, but I do think it already had another name before that.
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