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Who would be the best Master of Life?

willng3
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Helston
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Arthanasios
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Total Members Voted: 56

Voting closed: November 05, 2012, 01:46:53 pm

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Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011496#msg1011496
« on: October 29, 2012, 01:46:53 pm »
Phase 3 - Community Vote

Phase ends when above poll expires.

It's time to vote for your favorite Master candidate!  Every community member has one vote. You can change your vote at any time as long as there is still time on the clock.

Vote based on who you think would make the best Master of that element. Do not vote based on who is the best player or who you know personally. Try to pick someone who you think would help the community the most.  Feel free to ask the candidates difficult questions to help you make your decision.

For reference, here are the 6th Trials Standings (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,43965.0.html) and Phase 1 Submission (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,43688.0.html) threads.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2012, 02:19:40 pm by RavingRabbid »
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011525#msg1011525
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2012, 02:48:10 pm »
(Helston) You have highly surprised me in phase 2. But i don't really know you. Could you tell us a bit about yourself, and do you think you got chances to move to final and beat willng3? ( the tell us about yourself no need to be paragraphs)
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011531#msg1011531
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2012, 03:16:26 pm »
About me:
Hi, I'm Willu (but never Willing). 
Spoiler for A shortened history of me:
I've been a part of these forums (before the forum move) for a little over 2 years now, and don't foresee myself leaving anytime soon.  I first got involved with the forums through helping jmdt with his TTW Studies and continued to help with that project until the Arena came around and made them pretty obsolete.  My first big PvP involvement was in Team Life during War #2, which is probably where my first desire to lead this element arose from.  I was still inexperienced by the time I first attempted these Trials, which ultimately led to me not being eligible for participating in the final battle despite winning the community vote by a landslide.

Afterwards I decided I would participate in War again, and this time was drafted into Aether.  I could have taken this as a bad thing, but it ultimately gave me a chance to view Life from a different perspective which allowed me to realistically evaluate its strengths and weaknesses as an opponent.  The team we had was about as perfect as you can get, as a bonus.  After our team managed to make it to the top 2 position we went our separate ways and I went for Life Master yet again.  This time my efforts succeeded, but just barely.

If I had one thing in my Elements career that I would do differently, it would definitely have been how I approached War #4.  Simply put, I was far too inactive to be the general my team needed to be thanks to my busier than usual college schedule.  Several things didn't get accomplished because of this, which ultimately made us end up in second to last place (though Underworld isn't really considered an element).  I wholly take the blame for all of this.

Afterwards I felt like I had absolutely no desire to participate in War ever again.  However, I decided to participate in a few PvP Events to give myself a bit more experience and to revive my desire to contribute to my team as needed.  So when Trials 4 rolled around I felt like I had a whole new perspective on things that would give me an edge during the 4th phase.  Despite thinking the Community would have a negative opinion of me because of my failures during War 4, I still ended up winning the community vote with 80%+ of the votes which would then allow me to win 5-1 in the 4th phase.  After all of this, I was willing to give War another shot.

For War 5 I decided to take a different approach and try to make the experience as enjoyable as possible by finding people who shared my love for Life and who wanted to learn more about the element overtime in War.  Though the workload was still pretty heavy during some parts, I felt like I had accomplished our goal, and despite coming in 6th place instead of 1st, I felt like we were the ones who had won the War by the end.
Will I participate in the next War?  At the moment I'm unsure.  Once again I find myself fairly busy because of college, so I'm unsure of what dedications I'll be able to make in the future.  If the beginning of the event takes place over my winter break (which should last about a month), then the answer will most likely be yes.

Will I participate in the next Brawl?  Again, I'm not sure because of my potential workload.  I'm not exactly thrilled by the idea of Brawl after some of the reactions I saw from the last one, but I believe that our Brawlmasters will be able to make the event more successful next time.  For those wondering why I didn't participate in Brawl #1:  I had a scheduled 1 week vacation which ahead of time looked as if it would interfere with Brawl, and I didn't want my team to be left without its Boss for an entire week like that.  The event ended up starting up like right before I went on vacation so I probably still could have led the team without any real issues, but I wasn't aware of this information before I informed the Brawlmasters that I would not be leading Life.

If you're interested in any other information about me as a person, then you can probably find most of it on my profile.  However, I will say that as a person I'm pretty big on the whole "It takes respect to get respect" philosophy, and I can either be your best buddy or your worst enemy depending on how you apply that to me and/or other people.

I have so much to say about Life, the element, that I don't feel like I could express all of it in just a single post.  I'll answer any questions about Life itself that are either addressed to me privately or publicly as best I can.

Concerning Trials questions:
I have no intention of using this post as a place to store my responses to people's questions as I believe it would inconvenience them to have to check back constantly to see if I had answered their question.  I will answer each of them with a new post as I go along and have time. I should also probably mention that a hurricane is currently knocking on my front door which I fully expect will leave me without power at home for at least 3 days.  As a result, I may not be as quick to answer questions directed to me as I would like.  Apparently people made way too big of a deal about it.  I also have a habit of posting walls of text without intending to from the start.  If you'd like me to give a short response to reduce the amount that you need to read, you should specify that somewhere in your question post.

Oh, and while I will not ignore just about any Elements/Trials-related questions directed my way, I have no intention of bending backwards just to scrounge up more votes.  So if you're asking me to record my best impersonation of Justin Bieber while juggling on a unicycle, you should probably expect your question/request to be ignored.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011563#msg1011563
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2012, 04:58:39 pm »
Reserved... :life
If you wish to learn things about me, jusk ask in this topic. ;)

Let me indtroduce myself...
 I am a wicked figure of the land of Elements, a fallen servant of Life and a minion of the evil forces of Death and Darkness and a worshiper of Dark Gods. I am Arthanasios the Scum, fear my return to the Forest of Life, fear my desire of taking the title of master, because all the living things of the forest are going to suffer under my tyranny. Life won't be a comrade of Light and Water anymore, but an ally of Death and Darkness. Scorpions will replace Frogs and Emerald Shields will be removed by Thorns, cause Life will heal no more but it will deal poison instead...

 Ok, let's leave role-playing aside for a while and become a little more serious and honest. I am a 22-year-old 'boy' (sorry, but I still don't feel mature and wise enough to be called a 'man' :P) who lives in Greece and studies at the university of Patras. I have been playing ETG for half a year now and I've joined the Forums almost at the same time I started playing. I have to admit the game is quite superb, the best and more balanced of all CCG (at least before SoF :P). I seriously don't think I am worthy enough to lead Team Life in War, however I still wish to become Master of Life because of the following:
* Being a Master is not just about War; it has to do with supporting your element with various ways. I have already proven my loyalty to Life by trying to post original mono-life decks (even if not with the amount of success I hoped for). These deck include the Promising Mono-Life Bronze Farmer, which may not be the best choice for Bronze, but a winrate of 92% is probably the biggest for a mono-life deck against Bronze for now and MitoEmeralds/Jades without Rustlers or SoRs, whose upped version was used by Willng3 against Jenkar in these Trials (and I can't thank Willng3 enough for that :D). Furthermore, I always try to find ways to support life's weaknesses and buff its strengths.
* Being a Master is about Brawl too! ;D Seriously though, if Brawl is going to become an event almost as important as War, then I can honestly tell I have experience in this domain. Despite the unfairness, my passion for Brawl made me to support my team till the end, to advice my teammates and, in the end, 20 out of 43 submissions (Brawl Icon Bonus Task included) were mine, plus I've helped into many more. The greatest award was the recognition of my hard work from my teammates and a PM I recieved from Naesala-Brawlmaster himself who thanked me for not giving up! :D
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Gandora: What's your favorite creature to use Adrenaline on, and if possible, tell me why.

 That's a difficult question, since almost every creature in ETG is better when combined with Adrenaline.
Inside :life, my favorite creature is Forest Scorpion (especially if upped), since it deals two times its poisoning and four times its damage. Another not so obvious answer is Forest Spirit, since it can take every odd-numbered attack from 1 to 15 and its Adrenaline effect changes accordingly to its current attack (in terms of number of attacks and overall damage per turn).

 Outside :life, I am a bit addicted to AdrenaTitans, especially the upped ones, though flying Titans work great with Adrenaline no matter their upped/unupped version.


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What is a card that life is really weak too? And don't say dims (as any pc-less element is weak to that), and don't say wings (life dragons are pretty good).
EDIT: Also, life allready has a lot of healing, if you could remove one healing card and replace it for something else (concept, not specific card), what would it be and why?
I find Eternity to be really annoying against Life. Where a single RT can be dealt with by repaying and replaying your creature, a permanent RT ability can lock your mono-life deck down; Adrenaline fails, Mitosis Fails, Growth fails, let alone :life really needs its drawing power. The only creature I find it somewhat RT-resistant is Forest Scorpion; it will deal its cumulative poison damage even if reversed next turn.

The healing card I would remove is Druidic/Jade Staff (it's not that I don't like it, it is that I find Bonds and Heals much more vital) and I would replace it with another weapon with a different ability. Though a CC (Owl's Eye) or a PC (Pulverizer) activated ability would be nice for the new weapon of :life, I think I would give it something more original. The new weapon should either have an ability to attack multiple times per turn or a quanta generating ability in order to help you establish your tactics sooner.


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Emphatic bond is weak to pc and cc, what you think that can solve this?

Do you think that mitosis is inferior to parallel universe? If yes what you think of mitosis giving a defensive buff (+defense stat/anti cc shield) for the target creature?

 Personally, I think high health is the best and most easily-accesible reinforcement against CC as long as it concerns Empathic/Feral bonds. Reverse Time removes a creature but it can be played again, Mutation changes the creature but there is still a creature to buff Bond's healing and same goes to Freeze & Delay. Only damage & poison truly removes a creature from the field, reducing Bond's healing capabilities. So, use Cockatrices and Dragons (with Mitosis if possible) in order to protect your Bonds from CC's harm.
 As for PC's harm, you either protect them directly via :life/ :earth duo, or you play plenty of Bonds into the field. If one of them is deflaged/stolen, there are still some more to heal you up.

 About Mitosis, I've never comparted it to PU; I compare it with Fractal instead, since it does the same thing but with a different way; it creates an army consisted of a single creature type. However, as long as Mitosis is compared with PU, I think it is better due to its reusability while TU is an one shot spell. TU is more versatile, less obvious and more powerful if used at the right creature and at the right moment, however Mitosis is overall better.
 If I would put a buff to Mitosis, then I would probably reduce its cost to 4 :life | 3 :life. Nothing more, nothing less...


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Arthana: People tend to see you as somewhat inexperienced in PvP (as proven in the P2, 1-4). How would you improve your skill?
Bonus question to Arthana (optional): Many people nickname you ALLCAPSIOS. What's your opinion in this?

 No offence, since my answer is porbably going to seem selfish, but if someone judges an ETG player by his/her result of an event, then that 'someone' is the inexperienced one. Unfortunately, ETG is more RNG than skill (believe me, I hate this fact) and even a veteran can do false estimations about what kind of deck to use against a certain opponent. Furthermore, if that 'someone' claims I'm inexperienced due to losing more games than winning in Phase 2, then I claim I am experienced since I have came 2nd and 3rd in the last two weekly tournies and going fairly well in 12 Lives by Life-based decks against Aether-based ones (and Aether is considered to have the advantage against Life).
 About improving my skill, there is only one way. Practicing. And more careful deckbuilding too. ;)

I have no problem of people calling me ALLCAPSIONOS. After all, I challenge them to do it by filling the whole forum with my "CAPS LOCK ON!" name; ARTHANASIOS!!! XD

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It's been said many times that Life needs PC. But do you think it would benefit more instead from some form of PP: Permanent Protection? Currently only Earth has real PP, and Darkness has half-PP (it runs out). Having PP would certainly make it stand out more as an Element

Well, actually Life has a built-in PP in the form of Emerald/Jade Shield. Furthermore, :earth/ :life duos can use Enchant/Protect Artifact upon Thorns or Bonds or Staves or Even Pillars/Pends in order to be PP. However, having a PP spell in-element would be certainly made Life's life easier. Though I believe a PC would be more useful (if we consider the rushing power of our element), I would truly agree with you and say that a PP fits more with Life's nature and gameplay. Personally, I would create an Elf/Druid-like creature (the "good" opposite of the "evil" Fallen Elf/Druid) which would cast EA|PA upon permanents. Since Life needs plenty of Bonds to stall effectively and Thorn is awesome when protected, I think a reusable EA|PA ability would be a must-have for Life.

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Which card is life strongest asset and why?

Adrenaline; a card that every element envies and wishes to have...

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Your phase 2 results weren't too spectacular. Why do you think this was the case? What have you learned from that experience? How will you improve and convince others that you are fit for Life PvP?

Yes, they weren't indeed. This was due to lack of proper decktesting in some cases, rng-ruining in other ones and, finally, I wasn't able to guess my opponent's deck correctly in many games. Of course I've learnt from that experience, as well as the experience of any PvP event. As for trying to convience them I am capable for Life-PvP, I don't think I really need so. A single phase of a forum PvP event (like Trials) is not what makes someone a good player or not. I think I have fairly proven my skill and devotion as a Life player from deckbuilding to card making and from PvP1-PvP2 to decks I try to use in Weekly Tournamnets. However, I am planning to advance into every aspect of Life and searching its comboes with every other single element to its limits.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011572#msg1011572
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2012, 05:35:18 pm »
Question to everyone: What's your favorite creature to use Adrenaline on, and if possible, tell me why :)
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011581#msg1011581
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2012, 06:10:22 pm »
Question to everyone: What's your favorite creature to use Adrenaline on, and if possible, tell me why :)
Unupped, in general, I would have to say would be Horned Frogs.  So fast, so cost effective, so much fun.  Close seconds would be Phoenix, Titan and Druidic Staff, though I dislike all three in comparison for various reasons.  Minor Vamps are also good fun, but can really be depressing when you can't get the combo off.  Short Bows and Hammers are probably something that aren't referred to very often as well, but are crazy fast and fun.

For upped cards there's a lot of different possibilities.  I like Archangels for their stubborn resilience to CC and amazing damage bonus from Adrenaline.  Titans for the same reason plus Momentum.  Damselflies are ungodly amounts of fun if you use them with SoFr or Sky Blitz.  Crusaders for ridiculous amounts of fun with Jade Staves.  Elite Deja Vu for bizarre combo decks that can break sound barriers with their speed.

Overall I'd have to go with Horned Frogs since I've used them the most in this combination and feel the most connection with them.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011620#msg1011620
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2012, 07:58:48 pm »
What is a card that life is really weak too? And don't say dims (as any pc-less element is weak to that), and don't say wings (life dragons are pretty good).

EDIT: Also, life allready has a lot of healing, if you could remove one healing card and replace it for something else (concept, not specific card), what would it be and why?
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011626#msg1011626
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2012, 08:13:44 pm »
What is a card that life is really weak too? And don't say dims (as any pc-less element is weak to that), and don't say wings (life dragons are pretty good).
Lightning/T-bolt.  Even with creatures with more than 5HP, Lightning causes a lot of problems for Life's set up strategies.  Prime examples being Adrenaline, Mitosis and Empathic Bond.  Aside from Dim Shields, this card had me the most concerned when facing deuce during our Master's Tourney matches as it could be splashed just about anywhere if desired and set me back quite a bit.
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EDIT: Also, life allready has a lot of healing, if you could remove one healing card and replace it for something else (concept, not specific card), what would it be and why?
If I absolutely had to choose, I'd have to pick Heal.  While I feel like Heal offers a lot of use to Life-based stalls, I feel like Bonds have much more potential to keep you alive throughout the duel.  Plus SoGs and Staves can be used if you want to get your healing up fast.  If I were to replace Heal with something else then it would either be a form of creature protection or soft PC.  Creature protection compensates the lack of Heal by being a buff to Mitosis, Adrenaline and Bonds while PC makes rushing faster and somewhat makes up for Heal being used to stall the opponent as you attempt to out-damage them.  Between the two I would probably opt for creature protection.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011649#msg1011649
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2012, 09:34:30 pm »
Emphatic bond is weak to pc and cc, what you think that can solve this?

Do you think that mitosis is inferior to parallel universe? If yes what you think of mitosis giving a defensive buff (+defense stat/anti cc shield) for the target creature?


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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011652#msg1011652
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2012, 09:44:51 pm »
Emphatic bond is weak to pc and cc, what you think that can solve this?
Creature protection, and additional permanents to absorb incoming PC are the solutions I think of off of the top of my head.
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Do you think that mitosis is inferior to parallel universe? If yes what you think of mitosis giving a defensive buff (+defense stat/anti cc shield) for the target creature?
I think that the two serve very different purposes in most cases, so I wouldn't really say that either one is inferior to the other.  Mitosis aims to swarm while PU normally aims to increase damage output significantly over a short period of time.  However, while PU isn't anywhere near as potent without increasing damage output, Mitosis doesn't need to focus on damage alone for it to be useful; classic examples being combinations involving Bonds or MitoRoL.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011677#msg1011677
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2012, 10:43:21 pm »
I'm pretty busy with uni over the next couple of days, so I'll keep this to a brief introduction for now and get around to answering questions when I've got time. I'll post my answers seperately and link to them here.

I'm a university student from Melbourne, Australia. I found out about elements about a year and a half ago, and started paying more attention to the forum about a year ago, during War 4. Since then I've participated in a few PvP events, but the biggest step was when will recruited me for War 5. My initial impact was minimal, but over time I gained a bit more confidence and ended up being able to put a lot more effort into what we were doing. Since then my PvP skills have only been improving, and even Phase 2 of the Trials has given me a good opportunity to test where I'm at.

As I'm ineligible for War General (being a Warmaster), the first person I would ask to take up the mantle would without a doubt be will. If he declines I would prefer not to give it to ARTHANASIOS, despite his fantastic enthusiasm, due to the disadvantage his lack of experience would put him at.

Answers to questions copy/pasted here for convenience.

(Helston) You have highly surprised me in phase 2. But i don't really know you. Could you tell us a bit about yourself, and do you think you got chances to move to final and beat willng3? ( the tell us about yourself no need to be paragraphs)

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You're not the only one who was surprised by my phase 2 results. Admittedly there was a walkover and a win by default, but I'm still happy with my performance.

Do I stand a chance against will? He has the advantages of a more Life PvP experience, previous experience in the Trials finals and better PvP experience in general, but would I be in this if I didn't have a shot at actually winning?

Question to everyone: What's your favorite creature to use Adrenaline on, and if possible, tell me why :)
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Without a doubt that has to be Horned Frogs. I don't bring it out often due to fear of possible CC or shields, but having what is effectively a 12|3 on the field for 6 :life and 2 cards is just fantastic when you want to blast through your opponent.

Some other favourites are Titans and Elite Chargers for 15 (or 17) momentum damage, Archangels for that 7HP backed up by Heal, and the classic Adrenastaff.

What is a card that life is really weak too? And don't say dims (as any pc-less element is weak to that), and don't say wings (life dragons are pretty good).
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To me Discord and Dimensional Shield are the two cards toughest to face as Life, but I'm going to assume Discord isn't a valid answer either.

Life's biggest weaknesses are generally considered to be shields and creature control. Life is very reliant upon having and buffing creatures on the field and if there's the right shield up (read: Dimensional Shield), we have only one in-element way of getting around that, and it works best before the shield's up.

Alternatively, if we get a buffed creature out onto the field, and it's done away with via Owl's Eye, Eternity or Lightning we're . However, I don't mind countering creature control. One of life's strengths is being able to use a large number of cheap creatures, even without Mitosis or Fractal. It will often weaken a deck a little, and is much easier with upgraded Frogs and Cocks than their unupgraded forms, but can allow for that little bit of extra flexibility. What's more there are plenty of creatures within Life's grasp that have some CC resistance.

Shields are another matter though. Life decks tend to either be built to counter shields, or built to hope their not facing one. Life's most consistent answer to a strong shield is oustalling it, followed by duoing into Gravity, Darkness or Fire specifically expecting a shield. For this reason my answer is Titanium Shield/Diamond Shield. Emerald Dragons can easily get around it, and the 6HP makes them a great dragon, but if you're not packing them you really need to hope your deck's a direct counter to theirs.

EDIT: Also, life allready has a lot of healing, if you could remove one healing card and replace it for something else (concept, not specific card), what would it be and why?
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This is a tricky question, because I like Life's healing. Heal provides a niche of fitting into fast decks where you're looking for just one or two more turns and being much more splashable other Life cards, whilst still providing enough healing for major stalls. Empathic Bonds is nigh unstoppable assuming you can set it up and your opponent doesn't have enough PC. Druidic Staff sits in the middle, not as strong as some weapons, but better than others, giving Life something consistant to work with.

If I had to replace one, it would be Heal. Its flexibility is its ultimate downfall, being outclassed in rushes by other elements' PC and CC or just generally splashable cards, and falls well short of the healing provided by Sanctuaries in large stalls. I would replace it with another defensive card, some sort of creature protection, personal protection or some combination of the two. Trees are large, sturdy and living things, and even in the background for Emerald Pillars. Why not a defensive tree-themed card?

Emphatic bond is weak to pc and cc, what you think that can solve this?
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Empathic Bond isn't really that weak versus single target CC. Obviously taking out a creature weakens it, but reducing each bond's healing by one, or even two or three, isn't really that much when the card works best with swarms. Naturally Mass CC is a direct counter, but they're designed that way and it's a perfectly acceptable weakness.

As for PC, I'd like to see PC and permanent protection play a larger role in Elements in general. Extra forms of soft permanent control and protection (like Rejuvenation for soft PC and Vines for both control and protection (not implying life should get both or even one of the two, just the first two examples I could think of)) spread amongst the elements. While this would obviously place more permanent control into the game, it should also decrease the relative power of it, so decks should be less likely to just throw in that Deflag that ruined your only Empathic Bond.

Do you think that mitosis is inferior to parallel universe? If yes what you think of mitosis giving a defensive buff (+defense stat/anti cc shield) for the target creature?
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Mitosis is far from inferior to Parallel Universe; they serve different purposes. PU focuses on burst damage, while Mitosis focuses on swarming. Mitosis is much more useful on cheaper creatures where you can use their numbers to your advantage (like RoL or Devourer). And if you're running with :light and Rustlers, you can get a very similar mid-game effect to PU by putting Mitosis on an Emerald Dragon and pumping out the :life.

I think you've asked those questions the wrong way around, nensuru. I would argue that Mitosis is too vulnerable to CC and that Empathic Bonds is inferior to other forms of healing and defense. Mitosis is certainly made for swarming, which is an indirect counter to single target CC, but if they only need to take out the mother creature, suddenly Mitosis is a lot less helpful. While some sort of defensive buff for Mitosis would definitely be handy, it would be difficult to work in thematically and could easily make the card overpowered. Empathic Bonds on the other hand really needs a swarm before its effective at all. Until you've got 7 or so creatures Heal is usually the better healing card, but by then there's a good chance you're already dead.

Helston: You're not well-known in this forum, mostly because you're a lurker. What would you do when you become the Master?
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I'll probably be a bit more visible, although I'm trying that a bit more anyway with my Warmasterness and whatnot. I'm usually a quiet guy, hence the lurking, but little by little I'm trying to become a bigger part of the community. I'd obviously need to take an active part in the Life section (not as though it sees much traffic anyway =/), and I don't know, generally promote and represent the element a little more? Also, I'll change the Warmaster blue in my avatar to Life green.

I'm not sure what I would do about Brawl. I was hoping to participate this time around, but I'm not sure if I'm keen on it anymore. Like I said, I'm not exactly a socialite, but what I saw of Brawl (I was very busy with uni at the time) has dissuaded me a little. I guess I'll tackle that problem when it comes around.

It's been said many times that Life needs PC. But do you think it would benefit more instead from some form of PP: Permanent Protection? Currently only Earth has real PP, and Darkness has half-PP (it runs out). Having PP would certainly make it stand out more as an Element.
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Although I wrote above about how dangerous shields are for Life, I would prefer to see more indirect counters to permanents. Permanent protection might be one way of helping achieve that. Even if not for Life's permanents, but for others we duo into to potentially give our stalls a bit more flavour. In the real world, life is a pretty resilient thing - a meteor hit the planet sixty million years ago causing devastating damage all around the planet, but here we are now. I'd like to see a little more of that in game.

Which card is life strongest asset and why?
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Light usually outclasses us in healing, despite Empathic Bonds, Heal and Druidic Staff, we have the second weakest CC in the game consisting of the seldom used Thorn Carapace and the once-in-a-blue-moon CC of Mitosis. Our vanilla creatures might be the best, but that's a debatable. Mitosis can be emulated by Fractal or Parallel Universe depending on the circumstances.

My answer is Adrenaline, because there is nothing else like it. No other card can turn low and mid-range attackers into powerhouses like Adrenaline can. It works on quanta producers and stealers, creatures which poison, purified Voodoo Dolls, crazy decks designed to bluff creatures into oblivion], acceleration, and directly counters freeze and delay. In the right deck it is an insane card.

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Why the element of life? What stuck out to you about it and what are its key characteristics?
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When I first submitted my application for War 5, I just had entropy as my favourite element, which was true at the time. Shortly before the auction began, I changed my mind about it - I enjoy the concept behind entropy, but from what I had seen the last War I wasn't really a fan of how it played. I decided to put up three elements I'd like to learn about (and had no idea how to play) instead: Air, Life and Time. Next thing I knew, will bought me for 3 cards.

Why did it stick? For starters I'm one of those people who likes to stubbornly stick with the weaker side in games and try to make it work. Secondly, and far more importantly, adrenaline. I also like the swarming options Mitosis opens up, I'm beginning to appreciate Life's many opportunities to win through stalling, and will with a Frogtal is a close third on the list of men I would swing the other way for (he's got some pretty good competition)(also just will, not the frogs).

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what are its key characteristics?

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Oops, missed that bit.

Life is almost entirely focused on creatures. This works as a good starting point for connecting with any other element, as the vast majority of decks are creature based. Elements with creatures which gain bonuses in numbers or through attacking, or have some other way to strengthen creatures, thus synergise very well with Life.

Life's creatures (with the exception of Emerald Dragon) are very cheap, but left alone can cause quite a impact, especially if aided by Mitosis or Adrenaline. Life also has two of the best mid-ranged attackers in upped play - Giant Frog and Elite Cockatrice are well worth the mere 2 or 3 :life to play them.

Finally, Life is reactive, mostly through healing. Thorn Carapace is clearly an example of this, but Empathic Bonds and Heal show this too. Empathic Bonds is strongest with a large group of creatures, which takes time to build up, and thus is far more often seen turning the tide of a battle than winning a game from the outset. Heal too, stalling either so you have enough time to deal a finishing blow, or draw some other wonder card.

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To all participants (answer in your respective threads please): Choose the element that has least synergy with the element of your Trial, and explain why
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Now make an effective unupped duo-deck with your element and the element from 1a.
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1a. Earth. Although Earth's creatures have high HP, a quality Life's lack, the only good adrenaline targets are unupped Shriekers and Stone Dragons. To remain in the sweet spot, Shriekers need to stay as fragile making a Frog a better target, and Stone Dragons are too expensive to really rush an opponent. Hematite Golem, the best Mitosis target, has an extra 2HP for 1 :rainbow and a duo deck, compared to Cockatrice.
Additionally, Earth's stalling cards are generally better suited to either an element with strong CC (fire) or an element with strong standalone healing (light).
The worst bit is, there's plenty of Life/Earth combos that could work really well if they weren't too slow or CC vulnerable.

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It might just be Adrenafrogs with BB splash, but this is a unique scenario where BBs double as protection for frogs (and scorpion). In just one and a half turns the frogs will shrug off the 6-attack delay leaving them effectively as a 12|23 creature.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44401.msg1011690#msg1011690
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2012, 11:35:24 pm »
Will: Do you feel you can defend your title this time? Why or why not?

Helston: You're not well-known in this forum, mostly because you're a lurker. What would you do when you become the Master?

Arthana: People tend to see you as somewhat inexperienced in PvP (as proven in the P2, 1-4). How would you improve your skill?
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