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What time should the tournament be?

1300 GMT (same as the postoned tournament the week prior)
17 (48.6%)
2100 GMT (following the normal time rotation)
18 (51.4%)

Total Members Voted: 35

Voting closed: April 29, 2013, 02:47:53 pm

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Weekly Tournament - May 4th - The Forgotten Gratitude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064435#msg1064435
« on: April 27, 2013, 02:47:10 pm »
FACT OF THE DAY: When shards were first implemented into the game, the only way to obtain them was to show gratitude to the game's lead developer, Zanzarino. (by donating US$5)

Weekly Tournament - May 3rd - The Forgotten Gratitude - Unupgraded
Organizer: Higurashi, pikachufan2164, n00b, Vineroz or ddevans96

When?
To find out your local time, check this link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130504T21

Tournament has started

Where?
Please enter the Tournament Channel at least 15 minutes before the tournament starts. Use your forum username as nickname.

Rules
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Prizes
1st7,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark + Trophy (Forum Icon)
2nd5,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark
3rd4,000 electrum
4th3,000 electrum
5th2,000 electrum
6th1,000 electrum

Players who lose their quarterfinal (Top 8) matches will compete for the 5th and 6th place prizes in a mini-tournament. Prize-eligible players (namely, ones in the top 8) who leave the tournament without notifying the Tournament Organizer of their intent are considered to have forfeited their match, and also their prize.

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Black lines and text represent the brackets.
Red arrows represent 'dropping' into a different part of the bracket.
Blue arrows and text explain which battles are taking place in that part of the bracket.



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Special Rules
  • Upgraded cards and shards are not allowed (except SoG).
  • Shard of Gratitude(SoG) is allowed with condition: if you include x copies of SoGs in your deck, the minimum number of each non-pillar/pend/mark cards in your deck is equal to x and the maximum number of each non-pillar/pend/mark cards in your deck is equal to x+2.
  • All decks must have a Mark of Life  :life.
  • If your deck has no SoGs, you can only have 1 copy of each non-pillar/pend/mark card.
  • Quantum Pillar, Nova and Immolation are banned if there are SoGs in the deck.



1st: justaburd
2nd: Jen-i
3rd: Zso_Zso
4th: 09113664593c
5th: Marsu
6th: Laxadarap
« Last Edit: May 05, 2013, 12:16:18 am by Vineroz »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064437#msg1064437
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2013, 02:47:57 pm »
TO Announcement:

As we have postponed the tournament, we are now letting you to vote for what time it should start.



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Q&A:

Are upped SoGs allowed?

Donation cards come upgraded, although I don't know what it was like when they first came around. Although this is an unupgraded tournament, considering the theme and how readily available upgraded shards can be (and who wouldn't want to donate a little to Zanz?), it seems appropriate to allow them here (or maybe allow one or two upped per deck so people without them upgraded don't "have" to burn more than $10 to be completely competitive).

Although that would actually make sense and possibly encourage people to donate a few nickles to Zanz, our decision is to keep this tournament an unupgrade one. Considering the time it has been in game, also the usability of its unupped form, I don't think allowing upped SoGs is necessary.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2013, 02:51:12 pm by Vineroz »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064438#msg1064438
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2013, 02:51:19 pm »
Does that mean it is technically legal to play 6 SoGs, 1 emerald pendulum. and the rest of a different element (mark too)?  Or must we make sure to not have it as a dead card at all?
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064440#msg1064440
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2013, 02:54:42 pm »
Does that mean it is technically legal to play 6 SoGs, 1 emerald pendulum. and the rest of a different element (mark too)?  Or must we make sure to not have it as a dead card at all?

That would have been my question. The latter basically is impossible to do, as it is subjective.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - The Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064443#msg1064443
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2013, 02:56:13 pm »
i would hope participants would be decent enough to actually use sog properly not as a basically dead card. but the ruling does mean you have to have basically extra dead cards for one card you were never really planning to use i would hope that ruling would discourage people to use non sog using decks. I would also say number of copies should only increase by one as the number of sogs do, so one sog would allow 2 copies, 2 would allow three copies and so on
« Last Edit: April 27, 2013, 03:00:17 pm by treebeard xiii »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - The Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064445#msg1064445
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2013, 02:59:55 pm »
That's not the task of a participant. Loopholes have to be detected before by the organizer and the rules have to be adjusted accordingly. If you start with these subjective crap, it only leads to catastrophes sooner or later, see Blarp winning a mark.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - The Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064447#msg1064447
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2013, 03:05:20 pm »
That's not the task of a participant. Loopholes have to be detected before by the organizer and the rules have to be adjusted accordingly. If you start with these subjective crap, it only leads to catastrophes sooner or later, see Blarp winning a mark.
sorry for the argument Marsu but for a start can we put the blarp malarkey behind us it's been and gone nothing is going to change it as for the usage of sog as a respectable player i would say albeit it's not your duty to avoid abusing possible game changing loopholes, for respect of your opponent you should feel the need to not abuse a gamechanging loophole just my thoughts.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - The Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064450#msg1064450
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2013, 03:10:02 pm »
That's the point. For me, it's not an abuse, just an obvious perfection of your deck according to the rules given. Fippe and I both used death SoG's and I wasn't exactly surprised. And Fippe is a great sportsman.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - The Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064451#msg1064451
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2013, 03:10:20 pm »
What about a rule like this:

Your deck must also contain at least 4 life quanta sources (pillars/pends/standalone marks) and/or a life mark for the deck.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - The Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064457#msg1064457
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2013, 03:16:41 pm »
that the rule i built my decks to follow dragons it appears other people don't agree.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2013, 03:20:30 pm »
I am very happy if this is made an official rule. I'm just saying that you can't blame anyone from using dead SoG's if you don't somehow make it impossible through a specific rule.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 4th - The Forgotten Graditude - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48804.msg1064459#msg1064459
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2013, 03:22:10 pm »
I would agree. In the current state, I'd just run one SoG, and one life pendulum. It's hardly different from my old deck that exploited the loophole.

 

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