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Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067542#msg1067542
« on: May 07, 2013, 01:42:43 am »
It is only fitting that Death, represented in Elements by the color purple, is created from Fire and Water.

Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded
Organizer: Higurashi, pikachufan2164, n00b, Vineroz or ddevans96

When?
To find out your local time, check this link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130511T06

Tournament has started

Where?
Please enter the Tournament Channel at least 15 minutes before the tournament starts. Use your forum username as nickname.

Rules
Please read the PvP Tournament rules carefully before signing up.

Prizes
1st7,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark + Trophy (Forum Icon)
2nd5,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark
3rd4,000 electrum
4th3,000 electrum
5th2,000 electrum
6th1,000 electrum

Players who lose their quarterfinal (Top 8) matches will compete for the 5th and 6th place prizes in a mini-tournament. Prize-eligible players (namely, ones in the top 8) who leave the tournament without notifying the Tournament Organizer of their intent are considered to have forfeited their match, and also their prize.

Diagram Legend
Black lines and text represent the brackets.
Red arrows represent 'dropping' into a different part of the bracket.
Blue arrows and text explain which battles are taking place in that part of the bracket.



NOTE: Players with fewer than 15 forum posts are not allowed to enter tournaments. Spamming low-quality posts to reach the minimum post count needed to participate will not be tolerated.

Special Rules
  • Upgraded cards are allowed but not required.
  • Shards are not allowed.
  • Each deck must contain exactly one element of a primary color and exactly two elements of secondary colors ONLY.
  • Each deck must contain at least 6 cards of each element.
  • Number of Primary-color cards must be equal to the number of Secondary-color cards.
Spoiler for Primary Colors:
:waterbig :timebig :firebig

Spoiler for Secondary Colors:
:deathbig :lifebig :gravitybig



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« Last Edit: May 11, 2013, 08:55:13 am by Vineroz »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 10th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067543#msg1067543
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2013, 01:43:46 am »
Breaking news! To celebrate the 4th birthday of Elements the Game, we are introducing a door prize in this tournament. There is no need to sign up, what you have to do is to join this tournament! We will be giving out a 2k electrum code to one lucky participant. If there are more than 32 participants, we will be giving out TWO 2k electrum codes!



Q&A:

pills/pends/marks count as in-element cards?
yes.

Q: Do I have to use those primary and secondary colors? Can I use Aether coz it iz coolz
A: I know Aether iz coolz but it is neither primary or secondary color so you CAN'T use it.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 12:20:47 am by Vineroz »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067556#msg1067556
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2013, 02:19:50 am »
due to time, won't play. But, pills/pends/marks count as in-element cards?

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067560#msg1067560
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2013, 02:24:32 am »
Glad to see I can make this time; I thought I'd miss it, as I have plans Saturday morning, but this is Friday night for me :)

Couple questions:

1) Ditto what Deuce asked
2) Can you use cards outside the six listed elements?  i.e. could I make this deck?
10x water pillar (primary)
10x death pillar (secondary)
10x life pillar (secondary)
15x light pillar
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067578#msg1067578
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2013, 03:02:26 am »
pills/pends/marks count as in-element cards?

yes.

Can you use cards outside the six listed elements?  i.e. could I make this deck?
10x water pillar (primary)
10x death pillar (secondary)
10x life pillar (secondary)
15x light pillar
15x darkness pillar

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067622#msg1067622
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2013, 05:13:06 am »
Are other cards allowed? What marks are allowed? And just to clarify, can you use any other elements other than the primary and secondary colors?
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067637#msg1067637
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2013, 06:01:04 am »
This one looks super fun! I think I can make it :)
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067685#msg1067685
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2013, 09:52:08 am »
Are other cards allowed?
Spoiler for Hidden:
Quote from: Rule
Each deck must contain exactly one element of a primary color and exactly two elements of secondary colors.
It doesn't say you can use Other, so no.

What marks are allowed?
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No restriction on that is mentioned, which means you can assume all marks are allowed.

And just to clarify, can you use any other elements other than the primary and secondary colors?
Spoiler for Hidden:
Quote from: Rule
Each deck must contain exactly one element of a primary color and exactly two elements of secondary colors.
Yes, but you can only use a Grabbow with 4 graboids or Psiontal with no Psions. (Seriously?)
« Last Edit: May 07, 2013, 09:54:09 am by Vineroz »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067698#msg1067698
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2013, 11:48:59 am »
Is it okay if I make the secondary colour(a) the main part of the deck, and have the primary and the other secondary colour(b) being additions? (I mean, they are still parts of the deck, but the main focus is on the secondary colour(b))?

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067706#msg1067706
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2013, 12:53:50 pm »
Hey guys,

This tourney looks like lots of fun I've just got a couple comments so far.

I found the responses to these two questions inconsistent with each other:

Q. Are other cards allowed?
A. The rules don't say you can use Other, so no.

Q. What marks are allowed?
A. The rules don't say, which means you can assume all marks are allowed.

While I agree with both ruling individually the logic behind the rules in contradictory, in the first case the rules neither forbid nor allow something and the default is forbidden, in the second the rules neither forbid nor allow something and the default is its allowed.

I think the question about using additional elements is a perfect example of the problem. I'm assuming from your responses to the repeated questions that the intention of this rule:
Quote from: Rule
Each deck must contain exactly one element of a primary color and exactly two elements of secondary colors.
Is that a deck may not include cards from elements not listed in the primary or secondary lists. Which means you're assuming that we should all know, "if a rule doesn't specifically permit it then its forbidden", the problem is the OP doesn't tell us we're supposed to make this assumption.

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Deck import code : [Select]
52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 7la 7la 7la 7la 7la 7la 8pt

This deck contains exactly one element of a primary colour and exactly two elements of secondary colours, and at least 8 cards of each element. It would seem to me that it meets the rules as written.

I'm not asking that this be the ruling, only that rules be more consistent, and that when rules like this need to be clarified that they be added to the OP, having to search through a thread for all the rules makes it more likely that something will get missed.

Again, thank you guys as TO's for all your hard work, I certainly appreciate the time and effort you put in for my sake and the enjoyment of all the other tourney players out there.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067717#msg1067717
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2013, 01:19:37 pm »
each element at least 8 cards, jeni. so there are 2 lightpends left in your deck.
i guess and hope this is a trio tourney, so only that elements shown.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 11th - Elemental Painter - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49069.msg1067726#msg1067726
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2013, 01:40:37 pm »
TO Announcement:

Rule clarification:
Quote from: Rule
Each deck must contain exactly one element of a primary color and exactly two elements of secondary colors ONLY.
So every deck should be a trio. No Other cards.

Also, rule update:
Quote from: Rule
Each deck must contain at least 6 cards of each element.
Number of Primary-color cards must be equal to the number of Secondary-color cards.
So half of the deck will be from the same element (primary). Deck size must be even number.



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