Vault preparation

[valuka]

Other deck ideas. I probe the mix  with other elements.

by valuka

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  with poison

by valuka

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Scarab healing swarm

by valuka

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Anubis dont touch me deck.

[bripod]

Keep the deck ideas coming in. I'm gonna start looking at card counts tonight.
Maybe it'll help us with our starting vault.

[TheManuz]

I'd like to have a parameter for submitting decks.
Like a minimum requirement.
For example it should be over 95% win vs AI3 (considering at least 20 matches).
What do you people think?

[ffun]

How about some fractal scarabs?

I wondered about adding a RT or Eternity here instead of the lightnings, but they could be pretty versatile as early CC, to bring a critter into scarab range or as a finishing blow:

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And, of course, in War 3 team Time had a very nice nova scarab:

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[valuka]

For example it should be over 95% win vs AI3 (considering at least 20 matches).

I don't think this point is a must, because this decks are just ideas. What we would use vs the opponents, that strongly hangs from which is the main element, what he/she uses. i mean with this in the ideas are some decks that completly shutdown for example a fractix but has zero effiency against a bolt deck.
What we could use in battle is hanging from mindgating our opponents. This is the main reason for we must to test this decks vs our opponents possible deck variations.

[ffun]

I agree with this, valuka, and I would actually encourage everyone to post deck ideas even if you think it's viable, but it's not working very well yet - it might be a nice yet unfinished concept, and if you throw it here, we can collectively try to flesh out the idea into a great working deck.

After all, 17 men thinking about it are better than 1! (sorry, I feel like we'll have 10 men puns throughout the whole War )

[bripod]

Yall feel free to grab a deck and pair up for some sparring. Take notes and record them here. That way we won't be testing out the same decks.
Can we edit the posts to give each deck a number or some unique identifier?

[TheManuz]

Yall feel free to grab a deck and pair up for some sparring. Take notes and record them here. That way we won't be testing out the same decks.
Can we edit the posts to give each deck a number or some unique identifier?

Sure, nice idea. They need a name or a number.
We better use the rule "you post it, you name it".

[inthisroom]

Yall feel free to grab a deck and pair up for some sparring. Take notes and record them here. That way we won't be testing out the same decks.
Can we edit the posts to give each deck a number or some unique identifier?

Sure, nice idea. They need a name or a number.
We better use the rule "you post it, you name it".

I agree with that, and I'd like to suggest the following:

- Everyone who posted a deck names it, if it isn't already done.

- Every team member picks three decks from this thread and plays at least 20 matches vs AI 3 (or maybe some arena level, which might be more varied but we'd have to agree on that so everyone plays the same) with it, noting the win/loss ratio.

- To avoid "sympathy stats" everyone should pick a deck posted by another player, not his own.

- Every player indicates which decks he intends to test in this thread, if one of the decks was already taken by another member who noted this in a previous post, another one has to be chosen.

- The decks with the best stats undergo final testing in pvp between team members.

What about it?

[ffun]

I'm terrible at naming decks! Er... Discorpion? Scortropy? Meh, just call it Entropy Scorpion deck I guess (since we'll end up with a Gravity Scorpion and a Light Scorpion deck as well)

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With upgrades, an entropy scorpion deck is viable, but I'm afraid only 3 chaos simply won't cut it, hence it would have to be a Lieut/General deck. Discord has a double use: early in the game it can stall long enough for you to get the scorpion/chaos combo before they play their hand; later on, it pairs very well with RT to control some bothersome critters. Other cards to consider in it are pandemonium and, in case the General  uses it, improved AI.

As for a Light version (aka Light Scorpion), but it still needs to be fine-tuned:

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What I don't like is the fact that it's slower than the gravy or entropy versions. You can tweak the number of crusader and sanctuaries depending on what you expect for CC, PC or quanta denial. You could also drop them completely for RTs, but we can have only so many of them in the vault, heh. I tried it with improved blessings first, but if we keep the deck with pendula, the 1 light quanta decrease won't let you play the combo earlier anyway.

[bripod]

One request concerning deck names.

Can we post the name on a line by itself in a larger (24pt?) size as to make it easier to identify?
Say on the line just above the deck?

[10 men]

Ok, here are two more decks, then I'll get to critisicing some ideas:

Pharaoh farm:

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I think that if we want to play Pharaoh we have to get serious. We want to play a turn 3 (or even turn 2) Pharaoh with maximum consistency as otherwise it's just too slow. The only non-Pharaoh cards are 3 Scarab to sometimes jump over one HP threshold. Be aware when testing the deck that it's pretty frustrating to play against AI3 as they have all kind of weird card like Gravity Shield or Blessing that we probably won't see against us but that are pretty mean against this deck.

Fart attack:

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PC and quanta denial kinda kills this, but it's very good if the opponent overloaded on CC. Novas can be replaced by Quantum Pillars.