[L] Chaos-Cocoas 1 vs. Wild Mongrels 2

[TStar]

Round has ended

	Chaos-Cocoas		Wild Mongrels
	Valyok26		Acsabi44
	Squipples		UTAlan
	Dawidas888		Odii Odsen

[UTAlan]

Our personal elements are off. I should have .

[TStar]

Our personal elements are off. I should have .

Sorry about that, fixed it.

[Odii Odsen]

I lost the first round

by Odii Odsen

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Won the second

by Odii Odsen

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Third round:




dawidas: "yes, of course we play, because it was a desync., I don't agree with your win vs AI"




so we played again. -.-

by Odii Odsen

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[Dawidas888]

Dawidas888 2 - Odii Odsen 1

1st game:

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I won.

2nd game:

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He won.
3rd game:

by Dawidas888

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First game - desync. (I beat AI in 2 turns, however, Odii opposed that AI plays Lycantropes and does not wait for AM. I don't say how this would have helped him, because I was in a very good position and he had only 4 quanta and 1 pillar. I agreed to replay.

Second game - desync. It was around the end of the game and I had only small chances to win (2-3 turns before my death), but desync. occured again (and "Odii: AI doesn't play my deck right"), so I started searching again and didn't finish with AI.

3rd game - I won.

[Calindu]

No way Dawid could won that battle, Odii should receive the win

[Acsabi44]

That's as clear a win for Odii as anything I've ever seen.
There is simply no card in Dawidas' deck that could've turned that game around at that point.
The only thing that I could imagine to turn the scales there would be a sundial spam, but seeing that Dawidas has no dials in his deck...
I hope the Event Organizer will come to a just decision.

Naturally, I am biased, as this is about my teammate, but

No way Dawid could won that battle, Odii should receive the win

[Jappert]

The evidence at this moment clearly shows that the match should go to Odii. Screenshots proving it was Dawidas win in the first desynch seem to be missing.

I hope other matches will include a little bit more sportsmanship.

[taker]

That's as clear a win for Odii as anything I've ever seen.
There is simply no card in Dawidas' deck that could've turned that game around at that point.
The only thing that I could imagine to turn the scales there would be a sundial spam, but seeing that Dawidas has no dials in his deck...
I hope the Event Organizer will come to a just decision.

Naturally, I am biased, as this is about my teammate, but

No way Dawid could won that battle, Odii should receive the win

i agree to this. also dawidas has no screenshot!?

[TStar]

First off, if you wish to dispute a match the proper way is not to post on the forums and try to get public opinion on your side.  All that does is create drama and act as a backdoor way to try and pressure an organizer into siding with popular opinion.  I was extremely clear in the rules what the desync and dispute procedures are:

Desynchs will be replayed using the same decks and marks. If one player agrees that they would have lost that game, their opponent is awarded the win and the two players may move on to the next game, if needed.  If there is any dispute over a result, simply replay the game and PM the Event Organizer with the match in question.  The Organizer will then determine whether the original match should have been awarded or if the replay should count.

Since I never got a PM I am going to assume there is no dispute over this result.  From reading the match report posted by Dawidas888 if appears this wasn't the first desync of that third match either, although I don't see any screenshots posted on that one nor any mention from Odii Odsen that a prior desync had occured to the one he decided to post.  In any case, it's all a moot point since there is no dispute sent to me via PM, nor is there any mention of one in either players posts - just a screenshot and a quote that seems to tell one side of a complete story.  No need for any rulings here.

Secondly, TPvP has had many issues in the past with players causing unnecessary drama.  This is this definitely unnecessary drama.  The rules were made in a way specifically to avoid these types of situations and I'm extremely disappointed to see they were ignored for whatever reason.  I will not tolerate this type of behavior and have no qualms about removing players who try to derail the smooth running of TPvP #4 with it like so many of the past TPvP's have had happen.  Read the rules.  Follow the rules.  If you have a problem contact me in PM or private chat and I can look into it and try to resolve any dispute quietly and without unnecessary drama.  Nobody wants conflict, so let's avoid it instead of creating it ok?

[Odii Odsen]

Well, no screenshots, but he talked about a video.
And yes, if we desynched with about 80 hp and the AI is playing a Lycan instead of an AM then its AI's fail.
I'm feeling be treaded a bit unfairly, because on my side its desynched on the last turn. He talked about 2 or 3 turns before. Maybe he desynched earlier. But the time still runs on my screen.
I don't care of this match. I won imo, but if TStar says, its dawidas win, it would be a bit annoying, but it would be okay.
The discussion with dawidas in the chat has spoiled my fun...


edit: this post refers to this topic BEFORE TStar's post

[Jappert]

What Tstar said is that IF you don't agree with the outcome of this match, you should PM him with all possible information you have. Tstar will then look into it and try to solve the dispute without drama or interference from the entire community.