*Author

Offline artimies7

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1802
  • Reputation Power: 24
  • artimies7 is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.artimies7 is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.artimies7 is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.artimies7 is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.
  • Effectively Super
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday Cake
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg357607#msg357607
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2011, 12:37:43 am »
Mmm-kay. Thanks for clarifing.
Donuts, Noodles, or Bacon?
Whitewalleries! | Noodles, to Victory!

ShiningSword

  • Guest
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg357618#msg357618
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2011, 01:10:37 am »
I think that at the least we need tips about ai building(because ai isnt smart, so you have to count with its limitations when building). For example:
Dont use eternity on your huge SS/Miracle/Sog/Sanc deckouters(you dont really need it anyway, do you?), or i will hijack it with my RoLs(the target priority actually helps sometimes) and it will keep me alive instead of your ai.

Offline pikachufan2164

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2938
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 40
  • pikachufan2164 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.pikachufan2164 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.pikachufan2164 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.pikachufan2164 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.pikachufan2164 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.pikachufan2164 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.pikachufan2164 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.pikachufan2164 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.
  • Phase in, phase out.
  • Awards: Rouser of Willng3 RecruitsWeekly Tournament WinnerWar #5 Winner - Team AetherSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeTeam PvP #4 WinnerSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake 	2nd Trivia Winner
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg357622#msg357622
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2011, 01:22:22 am »
Protip: Test it in Trainer. If the trainer AI is doing it wrong, chances are, the beta AI will also be making the same play mistakes.
I'm doing science, and I'm still alive.

Level 2 Magic Judge.

Hodari

  • Guest
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg357626#msg357626
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2011, 01:39:07 am »
Another tip:  If there's any way the AI can mess it up with bad targeting or timing..it probably will.

I've run into a firebolt deck a few times now that loses because it keeps playing the bolts one at a time as soon as it gets them rather than saving up and firing all at once.  Sanctuaries were usually enough to heal back the damage

Offline EvaRia

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3143
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 45
  • EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • I~am~Eva, ~Chillwind~ I~am~Ria, ~Searwind~
  • Awards: War #5 Winner - Team Aether
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg357632#msg357632
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2011, 02:08:36 am »
There's one thing about bronze league that I'm wondering about...

In the first 500 score or so you really barely have any kind of card base.

When you're spinning random oracle cards, it's likely that you can't even build a deck around it...

This might lead to a lot of really bad bronze decks...

Offline tyranim

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2877
  • Reputation Power: 34
  • tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • formerly unit
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg357636#msg357636
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2011, 02:12:20 am »
There's one thing about bronze league that I'm wondering about...

In the first 500 score or so you really barely have any kind of card base.

When you're spinning random oracle cards, it's likely that you can't even build a deck around it...

This might lead to a lot of really bad bronze decks...
its bronze, they should be bad. and they have been bad. REALLY bad. i built a random bull crap deck just to test and it was winning almost nonstop in bronze but couldnt beat ai3, so yeah
my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like "its better than yours" damn right, its better than yours! i can teach you but i'd have to charge!

Offline Onizuka

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2292
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Onizuka hides under a Cloak.
  • Donuts!
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake1st Person to Escape the TempleSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeChampionship League 2/2012 2nd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeWinner of the Harry Potter PvP House Cup - HoH5th Trials - Master of EntropyWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg357643#msg357643
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2011, 02:33:11 am »
While they can't build the more diverse decks, I've seen grabbix quite a few times in Bronze.
You're just as selfish as I am. You're just not as good at it yet.

Offline Essence

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4340
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 57
  • Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.
  • Voice of the Oracle -- Jezzie's Pimp -- Often Gone
  • Awards: 2nd Trials - Master of Water1st Trials - Master of WaterFG Deck-Designer - The OutcastsShard Madness! Competition WinnerEpic 3 Card Design Competition WinnerElder Recruiter
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg358040#msg358040
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2011, 10:05:08 pm »
So, then, I'll be the first to use this thread for what it's intended:

Mitosis.  I can't think of a Mitosis deck that will beat the GotP/Rewind/Nightmare/Pest deck I've got up right now (Yeah, I got lucky and spun up an Obsidian Pillar!).  It's 47-7, Rank 9 at the moment (though that tends to fluctuate really quickly; it was rank 21 an hour ago and rank 5 two hours before that).   The AI plays it well, and I just can't figure a way to make Mitosis nastier than 12 Pests + 12 Rewinds + GotP+Nightmare.

Ideas?
If something happens and you think it deserves my attention, feel free to PM me. Other than that, I'm probably here if you want to shoot the breeze.

Offline tyranim

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2877
  • Reputation Power: 34
  • tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • formerly unit
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg358048#msg358048
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2011, 10:13:01 pm »
So, then, I'll be the first to use this thread for what it's intended:

Mitosis.  I can't think of a Mitosis deck that will beat the GotP/Rewind/Nightmare/Pest deck I've got up right now (Yeah, I got lucky and spun up an Obsidian Pillar!).  It's 47-7, Rank 9 at the moment (though that tends to fluctuate really quickly; it was rank 21 an hour ago and rank 5 two hours before that).   The AI plays it well, and I just can't figure a way to make Mitosis nastier than 12 Pests + 12 Rewinds + GotP+Nightmare.

Ideas?
maybe a life/air/water deck? i was thinking of building a pufferfish(unuped version) deck for tons of cc and damage. mitosis MIGHT make it stronger, but idk. if that doesnt work, then maybe a leaf dragon/green dragon/ mitosis deck?
my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like "its better than yours" damn right, its better than yours! i can teach you but i'd have to charge!

Offline Acsabi44

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1954
  • Country: hu
  • Reputation Power: 28
  • Acsabi44 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Acsabi44 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Acsabi44 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Acsabi44 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Acsabi44 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • Coming to get ya.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeBronze DonorWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner14 Club - Most Expensive players during War AuctionWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg358050#msg358050
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2011, 10:21:31 pm »
Am I the only one who thinks that players should build their arena decks themselves, without help from others?
[17:04:00] Dragon6: ‹@Acsabi44› You are Rage Potion, Phase Dragon and Momentum all in one
Interested in game strategy,  theory and other kinds of advice? Clicky clicky!

Offline tyranim

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2877
  • Reputation Power: 34
  • tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • formerly unit
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg358054#msg358054
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2011, 10:24:30 pm »
Am I the only one who thinks that players should build their arena decks themselves, without help from others?
do you not realize the unbelievable amount of really crappy deck builders there are out there? if its all self built without any help, then the arena would be so easy i would laugh myself to death from all the profits i would make off of pwning the living crap out of noob decks
my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like "its better than yours" damn right, its better than yours! i can teach you but i'd have to charge!

Offline Jenkar

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4199
  • Country: fr
  • Reputation Power: 58
  • Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Jenkar is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.
  • Heart's made of shadows
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeChampionship League 2/2013 WinnerSlice of Elements 4th Birthday Cake6th Trials - Master of AirWinner of Revive the Archive 2!Slice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeBeginners League 1/2012 WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner5th Trials - Master of AirAvatar of Patience - Winner of the 7 Heavenly Virtues Deck CompetitionBeginners League 3/2011 3rd PlaceC-C-C-Combo Maker Winner!
Re: Arena help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28021.msg358206#msg358206
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2011, 07:52:35 am »
do you not realize the unbelievable amount of really crappy deck builders there are out there? if its all self built without any help, then the arena would be so easy i would laugh myself to death from all the profits i would make off of pwning the living crap out of noob decks
As a really, really, really crappy deckbuilder, i'm gonna ask :
What the hell am i gonna do with those 5 grav shields?
The madness is in each of us. Close your eyes, sing, and open your webbed wings to the silent winds.
Beautiful art : http://i.imgur.com/eUhyYCC.png

 

anything
blarg: