Round 7 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

[Neopergoss]

We could do something like this for Long. Not sure its very strong, but its another way to avoid using quantum pillars.

by Neopergoss

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Not sure how I feel about your stalls at the moment Neo. Thinking about them.

I think I would prefer the immorush to something like this. Not sure what I'd do to it. One issue is that the FFQs probably won't come out for a while, and by that time you're likely to have more than enough fire quanta so what's produced by the fireflies won't be so useful. If we had firebolts or something that'd be better...maybe we could use unupped ffqs with miracle? ???

Really I could be mistaken -- I'll test this when I get a chance (not as soon as I'd like ).

[LongDono]

we have no air pillers, on pends I believe.

[Neopergoss]

we have no air pillers, on pends I believe.

We can salvage up to six air pends. We also have 4 wind pillars available, but we can only take 6 total of the two.

[LifeLockable]

gahhh sorry for not being more active in this guys...I hate my connection

I will be back in a few hours and post some idea's

but I like the idea of a stall...but we need sancs if we run a rainbow stall (not that you guys didnt know that )

and neo are the queens even effective in that deck? because we will only have enough quantum to spawn three fireflys...just looks like a deck that would fail late game...specially if they are able to kill the golems

I think we should wait on building decks untill we see what we are facing next round so we can prepare a counter rather then being stuck with what we have forced ourselves with, though I do see the point of planning our salvages into decks, we still might be forced against opponents who all have BH's or EQ which cripple our rainbows, and I have a feeling we will be seeing them alot

[Neopergoss]

but I like the idea of a stall...but we need sancs if we run a rainbow stall (not that you guys didnt know that )

I was hoping that AM's could serve as healing, especially if our foe doesn't have BH's. But maybe that's not very likely.

and neo are the queens even effective in that deck? because we will only have enough quantum to spawn three fireflys...just looks like a deck that would fail late game...specially if they are able to kill the golems

Good points, I agree that they probably aren't worth using there. Not sure how to fix that deck.

I think we should wait on building decks untill we see what we are facing next round so we can prepare a counter rather then being stuck with what we have forced ourselves with, though I do see the point of planning our salvages into decks, we still might be forced against opponents who all have BH's or EQ which cripple our rainbows, and I have a feeling we will be seeing them alot

Yes, this could all be made moot very quickly depending on our opponents. It's really just brainstorming now so that we'll have something to draw from once we do know. Trying to do as much as possible early so that past mistakes are avoided. I also want to be more involved in planning now that I won't be playing any of these decks. I'd like to spectate at least one match, too, so I'd appreciate it if there were posts about expected match times (early to mention this, but just saying).

Looking at the decks I posted, I think nova would probably be worth having in all of them.

[LifeLockable]

well about the match times, I guess I can try and make a schedule (if I'm playing next round which I hope to) so you can

I am online for short instances right now or I would be building decks...give me four hours and I will help it xD

[LifeLockable]

alright here is one of the decks that I think may be useful

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its a poison stall deck basically....if sev or long were to use it you would upgrade the toadfish and some other cards...I'd leave that up for them to decide

here is a standard rainbow rush with optional pheonixes or nightmares

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and here is my take of the growth deck

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thoughts?

[LongDono]

Life I have to say I am in lesbains with that first deck against team Aether, who we WILL have to face due to the rules. Also you ahve 1 too many novas.
Take flesh spiders out unless you upgrade them from the second deck.
I would like 1 less PA in the 3rd deck and 1 more graboid if possible.

[LifeLockable]

ohh LOL thats my its 31 cards xD

and there isnt a PA in the third one O.o you can trade a forest spirit for it sure...hmmm I'll make the changes here soon

[LongDono]

I ment EA. -.- XD Thats what I get for thinking.

[Neopergoss]

I think these decks look pretty good. None of them are resistant to BH and they're somewhat vulnerable to EQ, but hard to get around that. Against the right opponents, each deck probably has good prospects. I will make a few comments.

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I like the deck. It may be vulnerable to air creatures, though, especially dragons. I also wonder if 3 scorps + 3 momentums is reliable enough. Might help to replace sanc with blessing?

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I don't think I would take the elf or the EA but I like the deck otherwise. It could probably use a weapon.

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Again, I don't see much use for an EA here. Also, even with 3 EQs I'm not sure it's enough. You need to draw EQs early for them to be effective. This only has 2. I'd consider BBs as an alternative use for that earth quanta. I think you might be strained for water a bit with all those forest spirits. Maybe not. I still like this deck.

edit: are the EA's for EQ protection? not a bad idea, but with so few it has only a small chance of success. Also, I'd include other good EA targets in case they don't bring EQ.

[LifeLockable]

ahhh well the only weapons I havefrom our vault are the arsenics....and I agree with what you say about the EQ's...and the poison deck is vulnerable to flying creatures thats why I think we should use it against the element with the least amount of flyers because its effective otherwise....plus even if you dont get a dune+momentum early (I always do xD) the regualar the neurotaxic counter are the same as the poison counters you already had

the second deck only includes the elf as a form of CC if they get a dragon out persay...let me tell you without the phoenixes and nightmares instead its a mean deck...I beat a grabbix with it  8)

the growth deck is the only one I havent really tested out much as I didnt have time to thouroughly test them all ( i was testing them in PvP1 and top 50 yesterday...really happy results with the rush...and happy results with the poison as long as there are  no flyers or PC) so I plan to make the tweaks that I think they need by tonight