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Re: (Light Sld) Shinki12345 3 - 0 Dawn_to_Dusk (Partial-SUB) (Life Gen) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56807.msg1168272#msg1168272
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2014, 04:26:31 pm »
I'm pretty sure dim shield blocks antimatter-ed creatures...

Normally, Dim does NOT block Antimatter. Wings and Gravity Shield does.

When I played with Acsabi during Round 1 where we had a good connection, both me and Acsabi were seeing Antimattered Scorps BYPASSING his Dim Shields.

Moreover, if you play an Antimattered Scorpion deck versus any AI that drops Dims (Trainer included) you will see that they actually bypass the Dims.

However, in PvP, there is a desync bug where one player may see his scorpions bypassing the Dims and the other player does not. That has happened in this match.

The reason the WMs considered the bypassing Antimatter a bug instead of the blocked Antimatter is beyond my knowledge...

EDIT: But, in general, I have no problems to grant Team Light the victory or repeat the game or whatever (if the rest of Team Life agrees of course). However, it looks like this bug has to be discussed with the community as a whole because it involves two very powerful and overused cards which may cross each other's way more than once in the event (I am obviously talking about Antimatter and Dimensional Shield).
This may be a scorpion bug rather than a dim shield and antimatter bug. I remember that it blocks antimattered creatures as well. Does anybody have enough time and interest to provide some pictures? (i.e. play with someone and both of you take a pic when the scorpion hits)

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Re: (Light Sld) Shinki12345 3 - 0 Dawn_to_Dusk (Partial-SUB) (Life Gen) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56807.msg1168273#msg1168273
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2014, 04:51:40 pm »
@ian: If you use your Antimatter as a buff (a.k.a. to your OWN creature) it bypasses Dims. However, if you use it as a CC (a.k.a. to your OPPONENT'S creature) it does not bypass any Dims you may play.
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Re: (Light Sld) Shinki12345 3 - 0 Dawn_to_Dusk (Partial-SUB) (Life Gen) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56807.msg1168274#msg1168274
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2014, 05:11:31 pm »
This may be a scorpion bug rather than a dim shield and antimatter bug. I remember that it blocks antimattered creatures as well. Does anybody have enough time and interest to provide some pictures? (i.e. play with someone and both of you take a pic when the scorpion hits)

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Re: (Light Sld) Shinki12345 3 - 0 Dawn_to_Dusk (Partial-SUB) (Life Gen) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56807.msg1168275#msg1168275
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2014, 05:17:26 pm »
This may be a scorpion bug rather than a dim shield and antimatter bug. I remember that it blocks antimattered creatures as well. Does anybody have enough time and interest to provide some pictures? (i.e. play with someone and both of you take a pic when the scorpion hits)

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So yeah, it doesn't really matter unless your creature has venom-like abilities, I think.

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Re: (Light Sld) Shinki12345 3 - 0 Dawn_to_Dusk (Partial-SUB) (Life Gen) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56807.msg1168278#msg1168278
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2014, 05:46:29 pm »
When I played with Acsabi during Round 1 where we had a good connection, both me and Acsabi were seeing Antimattered Scorps BYPASSING his Dim Shields.
WUT? No, I remember them being blocked....
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Re: (Light Sld) Shinki12345 3 - 0 Dawn_to_Dusk (Partial-SUB) (Life Gen) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56807.msg1168281#msg1168281
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2014, 06:08:05 pm »
tbh the game would be improved by having all shields (Gravity, Wings, Dims) be bypassed by negative attack. Consistency is important, & this all reeks of sloppiness

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Re: (Light Sld) Shinki12345 3 - 0 Dawn_to_Dusk (Partial-SUB) (Life Gen) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56807.msg1168290#msg1168290
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2014, 06:37:57 pm »
I tested it with deuce by playing a duel where I had creatures and he had dim shields and antimatter.
I saw the attacks going through, and he didn't.
Every time my turn started, I saw his HP reset to what it would be without the negative attacks.
This is why we concluded that the attacks did not actually go through.

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tbh the game would be improved by having all shields (Gravity, Wings, Dims) be bypassed by negative attack. Consistency is important, & this all reeks of sloppiness

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