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(Earth, General) Blacksmith 3 - 2 Mathman101 (Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51630.msg1102037#msg1102037
« on: October 09, 2013, 08:54:56 pm »
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God that was close,

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So now you all seen those.

Game 1
When I first saw aether pend I thought great a dim +frogtal, perfect:)  but it turned out it was something much worse. I got 2 golems quiet soon( 1 of each ) but lighting killed 1 fast. I won the last turn thanks to a weapon top deck( close pewh )

Game 2
When I saw that I ahd 2 Rof in my hand I was pretty sure I would win this( if you can do that ), he played 2 psions at once then waited 1 tuen then played 1 adrena then next turn another one, I would probably have won if I had used the Rof when only 1 had adrenas. Anyway he got new stuff out and once again the match would be decided if I would draw damage or not, this time I didn't, lose.

Game 3
Close, went pretty much like first game.

Game 4
Was able to play a second turn eq but his draw was good and he had 5 pends. I was out rushed, but not with much.

Game 5
This was scary, very scary. I got a rushy draw with 3 golems and a weapon. He was not able to catch it up this time.

Good games math so close, to close. Better luck next time
« Last Edit: October 09, 2013, 09:19:35 pm by Blacksmith »
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Re: (Earth, General) Blacksmith 3 - 2 Mathman101 (Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51630.msg1102038#msg1102038
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game1: LOSS, too slow not enough damage

game2: WON, started with only 2 pends but managed to get to adrenpsions out fast. 2 Fire storms killed them, but I got out 2 more quickly. I messed up counting my damage and could have killed him one turn earlier, but got lucky and didn't die. stopped him with about 3 hp left.

game3: LOSS, early adrenpsion, but he got 2 golems on me. I didn't topdeck untill the turn it was too late, lost with him sitting at 2hp.

game4: WON, 5 pends start quick EQ, early adrenpsion, followed by 2 golems, another adrenpsion and more EQ. won with less then 10hp left.

game5: LOSS, no psions...no psions.. where are my psions?... found some near the end. 2 PU's got him down to 10hp before he killed me.

 
if RNG liked me more it may have been a different result!  :P

good games Blacksmith! those were all too close!
« Last Edit: October 09, 2013, 09:07:26 pm by mathman101 »
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Re: (Earth, General) Blacksmith 3 - 2 Mathman101 (Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51630.msg1102044#msg1102044
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 09:09:33 pm »
Curious match. Have the lava golems been PU'd ? especially game 5.

Edit: I partially got my answer from the screenshots. Still i can't see killed lava golems in there and wonder PU'ing them would make a difference.
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Re: (Earth, General) Blacksmith 3 - 2 Mathman101 (Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51630.msg1102047#msg1102047
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2013, 09:13:31 pm »
Curious match. Have the lava golems been PU'd ? especially game 5.

no it was the psions I found near the end. I thought about the golems, but I felt safer with the  psions, as I already had adren on them.
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Re: (Earth, General) Blacksmith 3 - 2 Mathman101 (Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51630.msg1102050#msg1102050
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2013, 09:19:57 pm »
Steel Golem:
But adrena golem does [+1 more damage than upped psion] / [+3 more damage than unupped psion] and starts hitting early since you didn't have any psions.

+ He can't kill them even with double RoF. But RoFs kill all your psions
- Well he has one diamond shield which effects golem.

Judging by how it looks and how you describe it, you skiped a few turns without doing damage but you could instead PU a golem and adrenaline it. Which means you would do at least +12 damage for every turn you skipped without playing a creature, and win game 5. Blacksmith doesn't even have a diamond shield on the screenshot.
Also if you used double PU on the last match, add another +12 per turn for 2nd one you skipped. and another +3 per turn for adrena psion damage vs adrena golem damage.

In other words: I see 3 adrenalined unupped psions. If they were golems, that would make +3 more damage for each golem on each turn. Even if you assume you could play either 3 on the same turn. But it looks like you could PU golems earlier, which means even bigger difference.

Lava Golem:
Did you ever kill a fat lava golem instead of PU'ing it ?
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Re: (Earth, General) Blacksmith 3 - 2 Mathman101 (Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51630.msg1102052#msg1102052
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 09:30:29 pm »
didn't even know he had the shield untill I saw it here, he never played it.

No I didn't kill the large L.golems, I usually had the Lightning when they were small.

I didn't even think about what damage a S.golem would do with adren, I was blinded by the focus on my psions. so yeah I guess I probably could have won that last now looking back.  Ouch, I guess I messed up worse than I thought.  :( sorry team
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Re: (Earth, General) Blacksmith 3 - 2 Mathman101 (Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51630.msg1102053#msg1102053
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 09:33:17 pm »
Ouch, I guess I messed up worse than I thought.  :( sorry team

No mate, i'm supposed to be a veteran but i had to look up the table to see the damage difference. So it is sort of fine to have overlooked that.

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Re: (Earth, General) Blacksmith 3 - 2 Mathman101 (Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51630.msg1102076#msg1102076
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 11:17:46 pm »
Hain the detective... :)

In all honesty though, I probably wouldn't even have noticed. Don't feel bad math, you've been a great help so far and gave Blacksmith a good scare for sure! We know what would have happened with even upgrades. :)

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Re: (Earth, General) Blacksmith 3 - 2 Mathman101 (Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51630.msg1102099#msg1102099
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 01:21:06 am »
Ouch, I guess I messed up worse than I thought.  :( sorry team

No mate, i'm supposed to be a veteran but i had to look up the table to see the damage difference. So it is sort of fine to have overlooked that.

http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/Adrenaline

Actually, it is quite a viable option to wait for a Psion, seeing as while 1 Adren'd Psion does deal less than 1 Adren'd Golem, using a PU on your own Psion after Adrenaline copies your own Adrenaline, producing a total of 18 damage for an unupped Psion or 22 damage for an upped one. Using PU and adrenaline on a Golem and subsequently drawing a Psion deals a total of 16 damage (17 upped), meaning that it's mostly a judgement call with luck being the determining factor. Also, Diamond shield is a real threat that could cost the match in such close games if you PU a Golem. Not saying either side is right or wrong here, just pointing out the merits of waiting.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 07:24:32 am »
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