Atheism vs Agnostic

[Jyiber]

The short version:

Atheists are against religion and they tend to lead arguments against it. They could be described as Anti-religion.

Agnostics could not care less about religion, they just don't believe. They are not against it, but not for it either. The logic with Agnostics often tends to be: there's no proof of god, but there's no proof against one either.

EDIT: There are many different gray areas in-between and around these, and according to OldTrees, a whole other term for people directly opposed to religion. In my personal experience, this usually applies to people who put themselves under the label Atheist, but don't make presumptions.

[OldTrees]

Correction:

Atheist: Does not believe in gods
Agnostic: Does not believe you can know if gods exist or don't exist
Antitheist: Believes theism is dangerous/damaging

There are agnostic theists.
There are agnostic atheists. (Most atheists)
There are antitheist atheists. (Most "militant" atheists)

[russianspy1234]

False.
Atheists are of the belief that there is no God.  While many might have a negative view of religion, such a view is not implied by the belief of Atheism.  There are in fact religions such as Buddhism that do not believe in a God.

Agnostics do not know whether there is a God or not (though most I've met tend to lean towards not) but also often hold a negative view of religions that hold so firmly that there is one.

[Marsu]

False.
Atheists [...] are in fact religions such as Buddhism that do not believe in a God.

What.

OldTrees version is the one most fitting so far, but it's still based on a religious world view.

Atheism is the natural form of humanity, just as the pure incarnation of a ressentiment free human being is defined by the lack of fascism, while a fascist person might want to divide the world into 'People that believe jews should be gassed', 'People that don't care wether jews are gassed or not' and 'People that oppose the gassing of jews'.

[OldTrees]

False.
Atheists are of the belief that there is no God.  While many might have a negative view of religion, such a view is not implied by the belief of Atheism.  There are in fact religions such as Buddhism that do not believe in a God.

Agnostics do not know whether there is a God or not (though most I've met tend to lean towards not) but also often hold a negative view of religions that hold so firmly that there is one.

Atheism is the lack of belief in a god. You will be swiftly corrected if you erroneously claim atheism is a belief. Some Buddhists are atheist.

It is true that Agnostics tend to have a negative view of people that claim to know if god exists or not.

@Marsu
Yes Atheism is defined based on a religious world view since it was a word invented by the Greeks/Romans.
However it is true that Humans are born lacking a belief in gods. (Just like humans are born lacking belief in logic or bigfoot)

[Zso_Zso]

Agnostics could care less about religion, they just don't believe.

Just a nitpick: Didn't you mean to write " could not care less" ?
English is not my native language, so I might be wrong, but that phrase bothers my sense of logic.
If you "could care less about" something, that means you definitely care about it and we do not have any real information how much. OTOH, if you say "could not care less about", that means you do not care at all (your care = 0 , so you could not have less care).

If I misinterpret this phrase, please explain it!

On-topic: my understanding of the definitions are the same as what OldTrees wrote.

[Jyiber]

Correction:

Atheist: Does not believe in gods
Agnostic: Does not believe you can know if gods exist or don't exist

How is that different from what I said? I mean your full breakdown was certainly more specific, and probably better phrased, but still...

[Marsu]

@Zso: That's a common phenomenon. 'I could care less' is indeed often used in colloquial language, so it probably was not just a typo, but as you pointed out, it does not make sense, which is why I would refrain from using it.

/e: Sorry for OT.

[russianspy1234]

False.
Atheists [...] are in fact religions such as Buddhism that do not believe in a God.

What.

what what? you cut out the middle part of what i said so of course the rest is undecypherable... im saying that atheism does not necessarily mean lack of religion.

False.
Atheists are of the belief that there is no God.  While many might have a negative view of religion, such a view is not implied by the belief of Atheism.  There are in fact religions such as Buddhism that do not believe in a God.

Agnostics do not know whether there is a God or not (though most I've met tend to lean towards not) but also often hold a negative view of religions that hold so firmly that there is one.

Atheism is the lack of belief in a god. You will be swiftly corrected if you erroneously claim atheism is a belief. Some Buddhists are atheist.

It is true that Agnostics tend to have a negative view of people that claim to know if god exists or not.

"belief" has some connotations, but what else do i call it? "conclusion?" isn't it most buddhists are atheists?

Agnostics could care less about religion, they just don't believe.

Just a nitpick: Didn't you mean to write " could not care less" ?
English is not my native language, so I might be wrong, but that phrase bothers my sense of logic.
If you "could care less about" something, that means you definitely care about it and we do not have any real information how much. OTOH, if you say "could not care less about", that means you do not care at all (your care = 0 , so you could not have less care).

If I misinterpret this phrase, please explain it!

On-topic: my understanding of the definitions are the same as what OldTrees wrote.

English is weird. there is indeed a phrase "i could care less" that means exactly the same thing as "i couldn't care less"

[Jyiber]

There, fixed the "could not care less" thing. If you think about it, it doesn't make sense.

Strange that people usually get more picky about details in a post, than the actual topic of the post...

[Marsu]

Noone has gotten picky, Zso just asked for the sense in it and russianspy and me tried to explain.

@russianspy:

Sorry, I misread something there. Read 'There' as 'They' for some reason, making it "Atheists are religions that don't believe in a god'.

[Jyiber]

Oh I know, it's just funny.