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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg349529#msg349529
« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2011, 01:39:27 pm »
The best deck overall is generally accepted to be either Shak'ars or a durable fast rush, like this: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.html
I've rushed her three times with that speedbow, and others will attest to its success.
Recently outrushed Rainbow with said rainbow deck.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg351175#msg351175
« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2011, 04:00:14 pm »
I got rainbow today, and as my AM/LS seem to dislike me (I always fail to draw enough antimatters or liquid shadows in time), I decided to try something else and based on glitch comment I build the following deck:

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Rainbow can be easily beaten if you know he's coming.  Go gravity+earth, use otyugh to control and heavy armor to get him big enough, and use black holes and earthquakes to put rainbow in it's place.
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Sadly, I lost, but this deck has potential.

I lost because his hand god flooding with cards he couldn't play, after I got a third turn EA-gravity shield and managed to protect my pendulums the turn after, turning all his CC AND PC into death cards, which resulted in seeing a few games where he was simply unable to use his hourglasses, because he had to clear his hand (by discarding).
As you can see I came close to losing on hp's too, because his owl's eye decided to show up on the third turn, and kept hitting me from there on. I think the deck will work out fine (especially fully upped) with one of two pulverizers to take his owl's eyes out, and a few stone skins for more healing.

Note, if you don't have upped BB, use 4 armors and 4 BB, instead of 2/6. The BB is nice when you are facing a shrieker before you have a gravity shield up, but can be expensive in the beginning (because you want to get the quanta for EA as fast as possible).

Play style:
Get a EA gravity shield as soon as possible
Use armors and BB on his shriekers
Use black hole for healing, try to maximize the healing
So don't heal when you have only 70 quanta left or when rainbow has little quanta, the extra hp's are more valuable than the extra turn(s) you get by using an early black hole, because: 8x shrieker = 96 damage, 8x spirit = 48 damage, 8x lycan = 8 damage, 4x thunderstorm = 20 damage, totalling at least 172 damage. You start with 100 damage, and you black holes can do 216 damage too, but with an early owl's eye and few hits before you can get your shield up that will be just enough (you can take 20 hits by on owl's eye, but that is without counting any hits by shriekers/spirits/lycans before you get your shield up.
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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg353986#msg353986
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2011, 08:48:17 am »
I got rainbow today, and as my AM/LS seem to dislike me (I always fail to draw enough antimatters or liquid shadows in time), I decided to try something else and based on glitch comment I build the following deck:



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Sadly, I lost, but this deck has potential.

I lost because his hand god flooding with cards he couldn't play, after I got a third turn EA-gravity shield and managed to protect my pendulums the turn after, turning all his CC AND PC into death cards, which resulted in seeing a few games where he was simply unable to use his hourglasses, because he had to clear his hand (by discarding).
As you can see I came close to losing on hp's too, because his owl's eye decided to show up on the third turn, and kept hitting me from there on. I think the deck will work out fine (especially fully upped) with one of two pulverizers to take his owl's eyes out, and a few stone skins for more healing.

Note, if you don't have upped BB, use 4 armors and 4 BB, instead of 2/6. The BB is nice when you are facing a shrieker before you have a gravity shield up, but can be expensive in the beginning (because you want to get the quanta for EA as fast as possible).

Play style:
Get a EA gravity shield as soon as possible
Use armors and BB on his shriekers
Use black hole for healing, try to maximize the healing
So don't heal when you have only 70 quanta left or when rainbow has little quanta, the extra hp's are more valuable than the extra turn(s) you get by using an early black hole, because: 8x shrieker = 96 damage, 8x spirit = 48 damage, 8x lycan = 8 damage, 4x thunderstorm = 20 damage, totalling at least 172 damage. You start with 100 damage, and you black holes can do 216 damage too, but with an early owl's eye and few hits before you can get your shield up that will be just enough (you can take 20 hits by on owl's eye, but that is without counting any hits by shriekers/spirits/lycans before you get your shield up.
Added some pulverizers to this deck to destroy the owls eyes and found out a few things:

1. This deck is can deck out Rainbow. Provided you do NOT protect the pendulums (you need them as bait for explosions and steals to clear out Rainbows hand so he can keep drawing.)
2. Using basilisk/ehh.. the other +hp thingy on anything else than shriekers will eventually kill you. (Silly me :p)
3. Decking out Rainbow is NOT worth the time and effort! EVER! If you try, you will be amazed about the time it takes to wait for Rainbows last 15 turns..
4. Im out of coffee and out of ideas for rainbow and will add a note to my FG specific decks to not waste any more time on this FG. All generic FG decks can with some luck beat this FG.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg353992#msg353992
« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2011, 09:21:41 am »
I've beaten him five oracle predictions in a row now with this deck:

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Basically RoL-hope stripped of anything he'll just steal or destroy, geared to speed and empty hands for fractalling. The extra towers and fractal make sure you can soak up all his PC and CC.

Works like a charm every time!

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg358671#msg358671
« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2011, 10:20:36 am »
There is no deck that can take Rainbow down 95% of the time. :(
Not 95% but not far away too. and with EM please.

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BB and antimatter are only for shrieker. You can leave you tower unprottected, it'll make it draw its steal and explosion.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg358703#msg358703
« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2011, 12:58:27 pm »
Ha, funny.
Where's the liquid shadow for the spirits, for a one turn kill?
And why do you have purifies? Like immaterial SoGs?
Other than that it looks like a deckout deck because of Rainbow's hourglasses.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg358705#msg358705
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2011, 01:09:02 pm »
Ha, funny.
Where's the liquid shadow for the spirits, for a one turn kill?
And why do you have purifies? Like immaterial SoGs?
Other than that it looks like a deckout deck because of Rainbow's hourglasses.
That deck is all about deck out.
And purifies works well as cheap unremoveable heal.
You may fit a way to kill rainbow but decking it out is the way to get  easy EM cause your shards will tell the last word.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg361432#msg361432
« Reply #67 on: July 06, 2011, 12:46:54 am »
Just wondering what your thoughts would be to using Black Holes in your deck Burne? (Black Hole will get 36 per while still likely not hampering Rainbow's ability to go about his business before you deck).. maybe atleast a couple as panic buttons? AMs are obviously vital, and purifies are also effective too (more effective than SoDs) Havent played the deck but I think BH would be handy at 36 instant healing for 3 grav i.e. 18 turns of a purify :)

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg361625#msg361625
« Reply #68 on: July 06, 2011, 07:37:55 am »
yes, that's a great card against rainbow but it's hard to add it in this deck without cutting the efficiency.
You only need it in case of an early rush, so you may add several of them in order to have one early.
36hp heal will only save you for barely one turn. Sundials could be a better choice here.
And futhermore, it takes your precious gravity quanta that you need for your shield as you'll run short of them in the begining.

The biggest problem is not to deck out yourself in case rainbow got his hand full of cards it can't use.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg363810#msg363810
« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2011, 03:49:28 pm »
The best deck overall is generally accepted to be either Shak'ars or a durable fast rush, like this: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.html
I've rushed her three times with that speedbow, and others will attest to its success.
For the record, i just outrushed rainbow with the said deck. Oracle gave me chrysaora.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg363811#msg363811
« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2011, 03:51:25 pm »
I've beaten him five oracle predictions in a row now with this deck:

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Basically RoL-hope stripped of anything he'll just steal or destroy, geared to speed and empty hands for fractalling. The extra towers and fractal make sure you can soak up all his PC and CC.

Works like a charm every time!
In addition to Shak'ars and Speedbows, I can also attest to the success of RoL/Hope without perms. Reason being I've gone 5-0 with my Perpetual Light, full speed version, and that uses 3 Electros that are basically dead cards.
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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg372541#msg372541
« Reply #71 on: July 28, 2011, 07:19:52 am »
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If you want to use a speedbow, I'd recommend this. Da Fastest Speedbow Eva with Unstable Gas replaced by Elite Wyrm.

As for Shak'ars, standard version works quite well.

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