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The Healbow - Speed Rainbow Healing at its Finest. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg145839#msg145839
« on: August 24, 2010, 11:27:26 pm »
After making 'Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.html)', I wondered if I could tweak the deck to remain fast while getting a high EM rate versus AI3.  Much more difficult than I thought since all the healing cards are clustered into 2-3 elements, but I think I found a decks that meets my goals.  I present an AI3 and a T50 version.


I ran a battery of stastics on the deck versus AI3.  I got a ttw of 7.240 and a 62% EM rate with no losses.

The deck is great versus AI3, but I also had success in PvP versus fire and life rushes.

AI3 version
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I also worked on a tweak to the healbow to make it better suited to the T50 guantlet.

I added a pair of wings to help against those evil life, fire, and shrieker rushes that love to show up.  Wings also helps shut down Golems that CCYB likes using.  The black hole is a very effective EM tool in a rainbow environment.  Explosion and Steal help deal with nasty shields that can slow you down, get rig of the annoying pulvy, or use your opponents SoG as your own.  The rewind has a two prong purpose: 1st its good to rewind buffed or expensive critter such as golems or shriekers versus rush decks.  Against CCYB, rewind will allow you to remove antimatter without killing your critter.

Still testing, but here's what I have so far.

T50 version
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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg145845#msg145845
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 11:30:48 pm »
i love it, it seems like a wicked powerful pvp deck. it has some defense in case your opponent can out rush you offensively, and a rush effect for when your opponent tries to use stall decks
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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg145846#msg145846
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 11:31:52 pm »
This is the type of rainbow I use when farming top 50. I prefer to mix up my healing across multiple elements like you did here. Given the diversity of top 50 opponents, I prefer to pack one Black Hole and two Improved Heals, but otherwise this looks pretty standard for what I would run.

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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg145935#msg145935
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 01:01:28 am »
I like it but I really hate not packing at least a little perm control in the T50.

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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg146015#msg146015
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 03:10:46 am »
wow this deck is gonna be the only deck where you can win electrum without even looking

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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg146056#msg146056
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 04:09:28 am »
i love this cause you can easily EM RoL/Hope decks, precog to see their setup and the gas to take them out and prevent fractal and dragons

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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg146140#msg146140
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 08:54:29 am »
I like it but I really hate not packing at least a little perm control in the T50.
I didn't think of t50 when designing this deck, but it does work quite well against t50.  I prefer as much speed as possible in T50 to win before the rainbows have a chance to get set up.  If I'm going for perm control, I pack it heavy, which is a completely different deck.

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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg147031#msg147031
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2010, 09:51:55 pm »
I've came up with a T50 optimized version of the EM bow.

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I added a T50 version of the Healbow to the 1st post as well.

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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg147043#msg147043
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2010, 10:18:34 pm »
the really nice thing on speedbows is there flexibility.
if you face alot of rainbows in t50 -- just put in on (or two) more blackholes.
if you encounter alot of rushes (life/fire) -- just add some cc like lightning/RoF/rewind/grav. pull/...

nice deck jmdt ;)

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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg147056#msg147056
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 10:46:37 pm »
Played several T50 matches with this guy.  It destroys the rush decks they throw out.  Life rush is epic fail once I get wings out.  Wolfunits mono dark was difficult, but after webbing his critters I pulled out the win.   This works brilliantly against pretty much every deck that doesn't feature oty.

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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg147210#msg147210
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 05:22:28 am »
I've came up with a T50 optimized version of the EM bow.

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I added a T50 version of the Healbow to the 1st post as well.
You missed the mark on your deck.

Have you considered replacing the phoenix with a lava destroyer, in that deck? I think it could work advantageously, especially when your graboids are low in the stack (or you only get 1 of 2, or you just have more earth quanta than you need).

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Re: Speed EM Bow - Beta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11831.msg147221#msg147221
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 07:01:53 am »
At mavyrk's suggestion, I swapped out the minor phoenix for a destoryer in the T50 version.  This should help a bit with the damage it lost to get the wings.

 

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