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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19139#msg19139
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2010, 09:52:03 pm »
After a quick jump to ivalman's versions and an attempt to make my own version, i came back to Puppy's version. Not saying this is better, i just never get statistics any close to other players, i guess i still need to learn, but i seem to go along with this one better:)

I removed the previous changes (feral bond (for EM) and time tower (to help preventing deck out)), thinking its more important to win than to EM; and the only change i have made to PuppyChow's version, i must say i am trully enjoying => Replacing pulveriser by a gravity shield. It costs only 3 quantum from otyugh, it blocks roughly everything that permafrost doesn't block (kinda); plus i don't believe pulveriser to be that usefull against FGs. Maybe ocasionally, like for instance, when FQ/Elidnis have up to 10 feral bonds in game, to make them recover slower .. and slower...
Other than that i hardly give it any use.

On the other hand, gravity shield can be usefull against some of the gods, elidnis (no permanent control!) with his forest things (+2/+2), with his dragons, won't bother much after having the shield. the only dangerous thing about Elidnis after having the shield on table is if he uses quintessence on one of those water creatures that poison us when hit (lol.. i'm sorry i don't know all cards names xD).
It seems to be, you know, "which god is this one? oh ok. Gravity/Permafrost shield is almost useless, lets draw cards till the other one"

So far having a win rate of 75% => 8 battles only though. Statistics (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2671534917) here. (I haven't been playing too much though, probably won't go to high numbers anytime soon)

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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19170#msg19170
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2010, 11:35:23 pm »
Just starting testing this.  2 of 4 so far.
I feel starved for quantums except when I get multiple supernovas. 

Looks like the key to getting EM is to switch form ice shield to bonewall near the end and let shards heal you up.  (Doesnt work against poison, but you dont usually get EM vs poison anyway).

Pulverizer won me one game by itself, got it very fast off supernovas and killed pillars.

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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19205#msg19205
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2010, 03:08:27 am »
So I broke down and tried this deck...and loved it.

I did add +2 Quantum Towers and +1 Electrum Hourglass, but that's the only changes I made.

Played with Entropy mark to get Supernovas out faster.

Found that by and large, the losses came to overwhelming damage before it was possible to get Qunted Oty+Bonewall or Fire Storm +Bonewall up and running.   In 13 games, I've never had to use Eternity to prevent deckout.  In fact, I only ever used it once, and that was in a very long and strange game vs. Graviton (which I won by rewinding everything with Momentum and Stealing his Grav Shield, once with the card and once with a Mutant after he blew the first one up.)

I only came near decking out once, and that was a victory at 3 HP and 0 cards v. Scorpio.  Fun all around.

I'm considering stripping the Eternity, because I use all of the time quanta to draw w/Hourglass.

All in all, I'm at 54% -- 7 wins, 6 losses, 2 Masteries -- after 13 games.  Not bad considering I've been playing mono-Water vs. AI5 for days to get 'in' to my new role as Master of Water, and almost forgot how to play Rainbows. :)
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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19222#msg19222
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2010, 07:39:31 am »
I finally got this all together (got my shards) and its working very well.

I added a tower, didnt seem like there were quite enough.

I like the speed of the deck, much faster to get the necessary quantums to play Oty/Quintessence or Bonewall/Fire Storm than the regular rainbow decks.  Supernova is great with Entropy mark!

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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19275#msg19275
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2010, 05:15:51 pm »
I'm wondering if there would be any benefit to using the exact deck pictured in the first post, with one Protect Artifact added?
I think one person earlier had tried it, and seemed happy with the results.
Essentially, it gives you a leg up on Seism, Obliterator, Chaos Lord, Hermes, Divine Glory, Rainbow, and any other permanent-targeting gods - especially if they already have a Pulverizer or stealing/destroying mutant out there first (or fire quanta for the dreaded explosion).
Testing it now, will report back after at least 20-30 games.

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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19291#msg19291
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2010, 07:27:58 pm »
To those of you taking statistics with variations, please use the website mentioned here:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2237.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2237.0.html)

Title the deck something like PuppyChows Rainbow (+1 PA) or something. That way I can just post the link to that stat page in the first post and any statistics you take will be automatically updated on this topic.

Oh and thanks for testing these variations. I was planning on doing it as soon as I have a lot of games with the original build, but you guys helping will be a big... help ;).

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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19372#msg19372
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2010, 01:22:34 am »
ahah :P
Thanks for the referrence PuppyChow ;P

Here's mine (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2671534917).
Changes made to it, as i said earlier:

Take Pulveriser out => Insert Gravity Shield.
(Somehow it doesn't seem that usefull for me, Pulveriser).

That's all. :)

ps.: EM against Rainbow... LEGIT! :D
He decked out 3-4 turns after using Miracle.Proof .

edit:
By the way, the deck-out against Seism was because someone ate my quantum towers so i couldn't make much use of anything.. including eternity. lawl. I find Seism being the hardest FG after Rainbow, or even hardest, having 7 towers in deck. he can just afford to use one earthquake per tower so...

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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19377#msg19377
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2010, 01:47:41 am »
Updated with your stats page :).

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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19423#msg19423
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2010, 06:12:37 am »
Here's mine (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2353768092), Pups.  +2 Towers, +1 Hourglass, no other changes.  :)
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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19425#msg19425
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2010, 06:19:46 am »
Link to your stats page?

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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg19427#msg19427
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2010, 06:37:16 am »
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Re: PuppyChow's FG Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1748.msg20212#msg20212
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2010, 07:23:05 pm »
http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=104149759 (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=104149759)
same deck: +gravity shield - pulverizer. 1.18 link :o still getting it to work. just beat Hermes with EM against a fire buckler yay! :)

 

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