Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic]

[bripod]

I've been playing the "slim" version of this vs Oracle FG's with some success....
As a noobie, I'd say add this one to your vault and ref the OP for the FG chart.
If you don't have a deck that can do better than 50% vs that FG and the chart shows that this deck is a contender...
try it... you'll be surprised...

[Amheug-ui Maseuteo]

Sorry for the delay, I've been ill the past week and haven't been able to get to the computer to finish off the stats, I will resume now.

[zhangvict]

How does the slim version compare to the ROL/Hope?

[iancudorinmarian]

can I upgrade only the dragon and the rage potion?I will upgrade the rest later.

[furballdn]

can I upgrade only the dragon and the rage potion?I will upgrade the rest later.

At the very least, you need the dragon and two rage potions upped. Otherwise you won't have enough for an OTK. The upped hourglasses help out tremendously as well, so up those too if you can.

[iancudorinmarian]

so this deck can beat only the listed false gods?I lose to the rest but good deck anyway,it can beat 16/30 FG(all=30 and are just 16 listed) good work 

[Amheug-ui Maseuteo]

I got to 190 and was about to submit my stats when I saw how damn close I was to 200 so I played another ten games just to make it even. I've now got the upped version of this and am using it as my actual FG grinder until I can get GotP time or Instosis. ANYWAYS; stats for the fat fat version. This is much higher than I was expecting.

deck	Limitless Speed FG OTK – Fatty Fat
players	Amheug-ui Maseuteo

version	1.29		win-rate	32%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	n.a.
games	200		Score/h	205
win-loss-(EM)	64-136-(49)		Score/h (n)	n.a.
time (h:m:s)	15:10:18		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	2506
min/game	04:33		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	n.a.

      Statmasta™realtec                                                               

score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™realtec	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
-1312    -162    -155    720    910    -202    -421    1097    -1004    1066    771    -440    -885    -800       -653    1070    -452    472    468    -307    701    -474    -452    -254    621    -253    -739    -545    -14	-1312    443    2314    5263    4963    2268    -421    5212    -1004    5991    5076    1092    -885    -800       -653    6314    -452    2941    2743    -307    4632    -474    -452    -254    4479    509    -739    -545    1663	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	1    1    8    7     1        5        6    6    1                9        4    4        5                3    1            2	10     8     5     1           5     9         5         2     8     11     2     7         6     2     4     8     2     3     6     4     3     7     5     7     6		1      1      7      6                  4            4      5                              7            4      4            3                        3

I got a few VERY lucky wins against certain gods who I really should have lost against, but in reality I would have skipped them, which brings the win rate down to something similar to GiantFrog's. But the raw data is VERY interesting. 15 hours of my life I'll never get back haha...

You put Miracle as a 100%win, 100% EM but I won 4 and lost 4, making it a 50% win. I'ma put some GbG's here.

Akebono Skip. Not a single win.
Chaos Lord Skip. One lucky win so long ago I don't remember how I won.
Dark Matter Skip. Same as above
Decay Easy. One loss where I didn't pull a sanc for ages or the quanta for it for the entire game.
Divine Glory Skip. One lucky win where he didn't pull any explosions for the whole game - very rare.
Dream Catcher Skip. Not a single win.
Elidnis Easiest god of them all, even with a bad hand I slaughtered elidnis every time. Only CC is lobo so you can pull your dragon w/o momentum early and get a possible early win.
Eternal Phoenix Skip. Not a single win.
Ferox Another easy god. No CC whatsoever so pull your dragon early so you don't have to have a full 8 card combo in your hand.
Fire Queen Playable, depends on your starting hand. Lots of CC.
Gemini Skip. Only win was when he didn't pull momentum on more than a couple of creatures for a LONG time which was counteracted by my sancs. He pulls too much power to win.
Graviton Skip. Not a single win.
Hecate Skip. Not a single win. Only two matches out of 200 fights =/
Hermes Skip. Not a single win.
Incarnate Second easiest after elidnis. Has CC.
Jezebel Skip. Not a single win.
Lionheart Playable. Tends to deck himself out a lot, but still try for the combo as he can, and will, rewind his own creatures if he hasn't quint'd them to prevent himself from decking out.
Miracle has no CC so this should be far easier than it actually is, but far too many a time I was killed FAR before I managed to get my defences set up. He can get a 10/10 diving pegasus up on the first turn (rarely, but I've seen it happen) which will kill you in 5 turns on its own, never mind with the backup he WILL put down.
Morte Skip. Not a single win.
Neptune Playable, depends on your starting hand.
Obliterator Skip. Not a single win. Only three matches against him out of 200 =/
Octane Skip. Not a single win.
Osiris Skip. Not a single win.
paradox 50/50 for whether you win or not, it depends on your draw and his.
Rainbow Skip. Eats this deck for breakfast and spits out it's bloody remains. I got one VERY lucky quick win where he didn't pull much PC
Scorpio Skip. Not a single win.
Seism Skip. Not a single win.
Serket Take a look at your hand and maybe play a round or two before you skip this god, he is definitely beatable.

And there you go!

[mwaetht]

I've been using this variant for Platinum.

by mwaetht

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4sa 55q 5ia 5mq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 7dr 7dr 7jq 7k6 7k6 7k6 7k6 7k6 7la 7la 7la 7n9 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 80b 80b 80b 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80e 80e 8pu

It's pretty good with a decent hand, but I find myself needing and only having Light Pendulums and Quantum Towers, or (very frequently) the reverse: needing for Sanctuary against a denial deck when I only have Time Pendulums and Quantum Towers. The use of three different quanta sources when I need two of those sources as soon as possible is the main reason I keep losing, because the deck requires mulligan and is liable to put only one source into my hand. Woe betide me when that source is a Quantum Tower.

Perhaps using Supernova and/or more Pendulums would help. Still, Supernova is wrecked by Black Hole spam, and more Pendulums reduces chance of drawing Phase Shield (the second main reason I keep losing).

[masterada]

forget it, its long been posted before

I havent been playing for a while, but i still look back at the forum if theres any new anti-FG deck, with some good idea.
Back in the day, i tried to make my own unupped ultimatecombo fg deck, without much success, so this deck got my attention when i saw it, and inspired me to try to do the whole 8-card combo 200+dmg with 7 card. Althought i failed with 7, i managed to do it with 7.5 o.O
This is just an idea, not tested, more expensive and probably harder to play. But if played well, it should grant higher EM rate and more fun (at least in theory
So the basic idea is to change the current 8-card combo:

by masterada

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55q 5op 61r 61r 61r 7dr 7dr 7jq 8pu

to this 7-card combo:

by masterada

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4ta 4ta 4ta 4ta 5c9 5op 7q6 8pu

(the shards are shard of readiness)
How to use: summon dragon, use mitosis, then shard of readiness, summon 2 dragons, then 2nd readiness (on the first dragon), summon 2 more dragons, etc., then use the Sky Blitz
At the end, u have 9 dragons, each with 26 atk, but with no momentum. If the shield blocks 3 dmg from each dragon, u will have 23*9 = 207 dmg, so its still enough.
The problem comes when there's a bone wall/improved dusk/dissipation shield/phase shield. For these u will need momentum, so lets put in a Chimera .
I promised u higher EM rate, so here it comes. As u only need to use the Chimera at 5/15 of the beatable gods (accourding to the guide at 1st page, these five: chaos lord, decay, hecate, incarnate, morte), u can throw it away whenever ur hand is full in other situations, so u can use one more card. Make the +1 a heal, and it should help u get back ur lost life right before the finishing blow, or buy some time in early/middle game, or just throw it away if u dont need it. With it the new cards in the deck:

by masterada

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4ta 4ta 4ta 4ta 560 5c2 5c9 5op 7q6 8pu

And the full deck (slim version):

by masterada

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4ta 4ta 4ta 4ta 560 5c2 5c9 5mq 5mq 5mq 5op 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q6 8pu

also, u may need to finetune the number and type of pillars/pendulums

ps: provided on an as is basis

[Chapuz]

I havent been playing for a while, but i still look back at the forum if theres any new anti-FG deck, with some good idea.
Back in the day, i tried to make my own unupped ultimatecombo fg deck, without much success, so this deck got my attention when i saw it, and inspired me to try to do the whole 8-card combo 200+dmg with 7 card. Althought i failed with 7, i managed to do it with 7.5 o.O
This is just an idea, not tested, more expensive and probably harder to play. But if played well, it should grant higher EM rate and more fun (at least in theory
So the basic idea is to change the current 8-card combo:

by Chapuz

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55q 5op 61r 61r 61r 7dr 7dr 7jq 8pu

to this 7-card combo:

by Chapuz

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4ta 4ta 4ta 4ta 5c9 5op 7q6 8pu

(the shards are shard of readiness)
How to use: summon dragon, use mitosis, then shard of readiness, summon 2 dragons, then 2nd readiness (on the first dragon), summon 2 more dragons, etc., then use the Sky Blitz
At the end, u have 9 dragons, each with 26 atk, but with no momentum. If the shield blocks 3 dmg from each dragon, u will have 23*9 = 207 dmg, so its still enough.
The problem comes when there's a bone wall/improved dusk/dissipation shield/phase shield. For these u will need momentum, so lets put in a Chimera .
I promised u higher EM rate, so here it comes. As u only need to use the Chimera at 5/15 of the beatable gods (accourding to the guide at 1st page, these five: chaos lord, decay, hecate, incarnate, morte), u can throw it away whenever ur hand is full in other situations, so u can use one more card. Make the +1 a heal, and it should help u get back ur lost life right before the finishing blow, or buy some time in early/middle game, or just throw it away if u dont need it. With it the new cards in the deck:

by Chapuz

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4ta 4ta 4ta 4ta 560 5c2 5c9 5op 7q6 8pu

And the full deck (slim version):

by Chapuz

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4ta 4ta 4ta 4ta 560 5c2 5c9 5mq 5mq 5mq 5op 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q6 8pu

also, u may need to finetune the number and type of pillars/pendulums

ps: provided on an as is basis

Well, watching just the light pendulums it seems you haven't worked on it a lot of time xD

Thanks for that deck! I posted a fully upped version (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32292). I will see if I can work on a reliable semi unupped version, chacking your decks time quanta issues.

[masterada]

ups i should have looked around before posting

[Chapuz]

deck	Limitless Speed FG OTK – Fatty Fat
players	Amheug-ui Maseuteo

version	1.29		win-rate	32%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	n.a.
games	200		Score/h	205
win-loss-(EM)	64-136-(49)		Score/h (n)	n.a.
time (h:m:s)	15:10:18		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	2506
min/game	04:33		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	n.a.

      Statmasta™realtec                                                               

F*** yeah!