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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg400585#msg400585
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2011, 11:55:15 am »
You may not belive me, but I thought the unupped version was more fragile than what you are saying  :o

I was gonna make some changes in the unupped version, like removing a pair of pilars and adding 2 or 3 time and light pendulums and 3 or 4 Sanctuaries, so the deck has some PC fodders and can win against more False Gods  :P

Can you try that and tell me how it does, here or in the unupped version topic?

BTW, the win rate will increase enormusly! Fast stuff is essential.
Yes, the unupped version is fragile indeed vs Gods with many PC, but with the others you only have to draw a shield and an hourglass to start the drawing...

I will do some test tonight if you want, using the unupped version in the other topic, but I don't promise much... I have few time to play...

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg400654#msg400654
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2011, 02:52:29 pm »
You may not belive me, but I thought the unupped version was more fragile than what you are saying  :o

I was gonna make some changes in the unupped version, like removing a pair of pilars and adding 2 or 3 time and light pendulums and 3 or 4 Sanctuaries, so the deck has some PC fodders and can win against more False Gods  :P

Can you try that and tell me how it does, here or in the unupped version topic?

BTW, the win rate will increase enormusly! Fast stuff is essential.
Yes, the unupped version is fragile indeed vs Gods with many PC, but with the others you only have to draw a shield and an hourglass to start the drawing...

I will do some test tonight if you want, using the unupped version in the other topic, but I don't promise much... I have few time to play...
Let me make little modifications to the unupped version so it has better win rate than Flay'em. There are some FG with little PC, so if i can make those target sh!t and not the shields, the unupped version will ROCK over all the others! (im refering to little PC, no none PC, like Chaos Lord)

EDIT: Done! now you can make some good stats for the unupped deck. Don't forget the strategies I posted in it's own thread OP! Now, it's win rate must be over Flay'ems.

I'm thinking on changing the name to "Limitless power, FG OTK [Epic]", what do you say??
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg400764#msg400764
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2011, 06:38:05 pm »
Let me make little modifications to the unupped version so it has better win rate than Flay'em. There are some FG with little PC, so if i can make those target sh!t and not the shields, the unupped version will ROCK over all the others! (im refering to little PC, no none PC, like Chaos Lord)

EDIT: Done! now you can make some good stats for the unupped deck. Don't forget the strategies I posted in it's own thread OP! Now, it's win rate must be over Flay'ems.

I'm thinking on changing the name to "Limitless power, FG OTK [Epic]", what do you say??
I think "speed" is good, 'cause drawing is the essence of the deck IMO...

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg400766#msg400766
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2011, 06:41:07 pm »
Let me make little modifications to the unupped version so it has better win rate than Flay'em. There are some FG with little PC, so if i can make those target sh!t and not the shields, the unupped version will ROCK over all the others! (im refering to little PC, no none PC, like Chaos Lord)

EDIT: Done! now you can make some good stats for the unupped deck. Don't forget the strategies I posted in it's own thread OP! Now, it's win rate must be over Flay'ems.

I'm thinking on changing the name to "Limitless power, FG OTK [Epic]", what do you say??
I think "speed" is good, 'cause drawing is the essence of the deck IMO...
Ohh god don't call Essence, or he will start making awsome mods of my humble deck =(

Well, good point xD
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg400783#msg400783
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2011, 07:18:33 pm »
Ahah sorry... :P
Anyway I think the previous unupped version is better, I lost 3 matches consecutively (vs Eternal Phoenix, Osiris and Lionheart) because I was drawing all my hourglasses and sanctuaries and no shields or mega-epic-combo cards (well, not all of them...)
You should drop unupped Hourglasses (3 is ok, 1 in play is sufficient) and a few Sanctuaries (useful in play, useless in hand, and you can't play all of them because of quanta... 3 is good IMO).
Also drop Light Pends, or kepp 2-3 of them.

Summary:
Hourglasses: 3+2 unupped -> 3 upped
Sanctuaries: 6 -> 3 (I used 3 SoG yesterday...)
Light Pends: 4 -> 3 to 0 (I dunno how useful they are...)

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg400786#msg400786
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2011, 07:21:50 pm »
Ahah sorry... :P
Anyway I think the previous unupped version is better, I lost 3 matches consecutively (vs Eternal Phoenix, Osiris and Lionheart) because I was drawing all my hourglasses and sanctuaries and no shields or mega-epic-combo cards (well, not all of them...)
You should drop unupped Hourglasses (3 is ok, 1 in play is sufficient) and a few Sanctuaries (useful in play, useless in hand, and you can't play all of them because of quanta... 3 is good IMO).
Also drop Light Pends, or kepp 2-3 of them.

Summary:
Hourglasses: 3+2 unupped -> 3 upped
Sanctuaries: 6 -> 3 (I used 3 SoG yesterday...)
Light Pends: 4 -> 3 to 0 (I dunno how useful they are...)
    Will take notes. As i am currently working on the upped stats, i haven't tested the unupped version enough. I will leave the 2 versions, the slim one and a middle point (only 4 PC FG deserve to be defeated).  ;D That surprises me. The upped version works GREEEAT as fatty as it is.  :o Eternal Phoenix is an autoquit even with the upped deck. Too much PC being so rushy  ???
And one more thing, please. Post comments of the unupped version in its own thread  :P
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg402228#msg402228
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2011, 06:12:13 pm »
sweet deck :o too bad i cant affordXD

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg402246#msg402246
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2011, 06:35:11 pm »
sweet deck :o too bad i cant affordXD
You can always try the semi unupped versions!

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg403387#msg403387
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2011, 12:56:27 pm »
Very good deck, it's funny that I win with only EM's. :D
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg403394#msg403394
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2011, 01:19:33 pm »
It's a nice deck, but i find it kind of unreliable (only in the beginning, when you start dropping Hourglasses and Shields it's ok).

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg403412#msg403412
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2011, 01:42:09 pm »
It's a nice deck, but i find it kind of unreliable (only in the beginning, when you start dropping Hourglasses and Shields it's ok).
The reliable thing of this deck is the fast and massive healing. In most of the FGs, the shield chain is absolutely breakable if you know you will resist the next hit. That's the advantage against the slim (and unupped) version. In other words, the shields can be used as a "break" for healing before the oponent's next hit(s). And of course, the game starts when you play the 1st Hourglass. That's why you have 5 of them ^^

Make some tests and you will see the results  ;)

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg403711#msg403711
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2011, 11:27:07 pm »
i like the looks of this, looking forward to stats/screens.
You will get them soon, I promise at least a 10 game stat for each FG ;)
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