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Re: Limitless Speed 150 OTK [HB] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42314.msg532955#msg532955
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2012, 09:36:00 am »
Well,i dont think Chapuz can do that guide. Because he is already elitist. He can't think like a newb  :)
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Re: Limitless Speed 150 OTK [HB] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42314.msg532993#msg532993
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2012, 01:01:52 pm »
Well,i dont think Chapuz can do that guide. Because he is already elitist. He can't think like a newb  :)
if I were elitist, I would only make upped decks with tons of nymphs and rares. I won't make it because it would be something like this:
Start  :time, play AI0, 1 and 2, make Dazling Dolls, farl AI3 and PVP1, make Devonian frOTKal, go FGs, make limitless speed
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Re: Limitless Speed 150 OTK [HB] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42314.msg533011#msg533011
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2012, 01:39:48 pm »
Well,i dont think Chapuz can do that guide. Because he is already elitist. He can't think like a newb  :)
if I were elitist, I would only make upped decks with tons of nymphs and rares. I won't make it because it would be something like this:
Start  :time, play AI0, 1 and 2, make Dazling Dolls, farl AI3 and PVP1, make Devonian frOTKal, go FGs, make limitless speed
Then...you are an elitist newbie helper. That fits.
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Re: Limitless Speed 150 OTK [HB] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42314.msg533152#msg533152
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2012, 07:47:26 pm »
Well,i dont think Chapuz can do that guide. Because he is already elitist. He can't think like a newb  :)
if I were elitist, I would only make upped decks with tons of nymphs and rares. I won't make it because it would be something like this:
Start  :time, play AI0, 1 and 2, make Dazling Dolls, farl AI3 and PVP1, make Devonian frOTKal, go FGs, make limitless speed
Oh well, it was a good idea still. Hmmm.... who should make the guide?
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Re: Limitless Speed 150 OTK [HB] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42314.msg533162#msg533162
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2012, 08:50:25 pm »
Well,i dont think Chapuz can do that guide. Because he is already elitist. He can't think like a newb  :)
if I were elitist, I would only make upped decks with tons of nymphs and rares. I won't make it because it would be something like this:
Start  :time, play AI0, 1 and 2, make Dazling Dolls, farl AI3 and PVP1, make Devonian frOTKal, go FGs, make limitless speed
Oh well, it was a good idea still. Hmmm.... who should make the guide?
A player shouldn't rely on guides that show a straight deck path, they must test and explore different strategies, learning from deckbuilding and experience. Therefore, I won't do it.
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Re: Limitless Speed 150 OTK [HB] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42314.msg533274#msg533274
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2012, 04:45:26 am »
Well,i dont think Chapuz can do that guide. Because he is already elitist. He can't think like a newb  :)
if I were elitist, I would only make upped decks with tons of nymphs and rares. I won't make it because it would be something like this:
Start  :time, play AI0, 1 and 2, make Dazling Dolls, farl AI3 and PVP1, make Devonian frOTKal, go FGs, make limitless speed
Oh well, it was a good idea still. Hmmm.... who should make the guide?
A player shouldn't rely on guides that show a straight deck path, they must test and explore different strategies, learning from deckbuilding and experience. Therefore, I won't do it.
If you don't think the same as me, you are free to do it.
I thought that too and posted here here. The idea,then edited my post because Chapuz is right.
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Re: Limitless Speed 150 OTK [HB] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42314.msg536270#msg536270
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2012, 09:29:11 pm »
This is a truly awesome grinder. Works well as a HB hunter even unupped and requires only a small amount of upgrades to start hunting FG.
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Re: Limitless Speed 150 OTK [HB] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42314.msg537429#msg537429
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2012, 01:11:41 am »
This grinder has won me so many HB battles. OTKing those bastards is extremely satisifying.

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Re: Limitless Speed 150 OTK [HB] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42314.msg1308094#msg1308094
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2023, 04:36:47 pm »
Grinding HBs is a gamble. If we talk about completely unupped decks,Ai3 is 'faster' than grinding HBs. But,if you get an upped card from spin of HBs,when you sell it,in a long run,HBs are better. Situational.
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The problem is that the speed of grinding AI3 and the incredibly low chance of spinning an upped card from a half-blood mean that even taking into account occasional bursts of 1000+ electrum from half-bloods, AI3 is probably a better grinding choice over any period of time.
I already explained that. Ai3 is better due to speed. But if you get an up from HBs,it's better. I remember that sometimes i got 3 upped from total 1 spin. It depends on luck.

On average, in the time it will take to win an upped card, your total money gained from AI3 will be greater than value of upped card + money gained from AI4.   This means that unless your family is held hostage and you need to win 1000 electrum in five minutes, the better choice to grind will always be AI3.

AI4 is way better than AI3. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/farming-studies-and-statistics/ai4halfblood-stats-thread-(1-321)-decks-and-spin-chance

At 1 upped drop per 12 games that's 100 :electrum expected value added per win. With hgbg (unupped rareless grabbow) having ~50% winrate at 10ttw that's 50 :electrum per game with fast games. That reward added on top of the AI4 payout

I've been exploring unupped rareless quite a bit these days in oetg's Legacy mode. Hence why I came across this 10 year old 150OTK thread. With selling to bazaar every element wants to sell their cards & go hbgb. Maybe using NT rush as a cheap AI3 grinder to get started. Without selling to bazaar every element besides Earth/Entropy want to gather dimfractal decks to eventually go for hbgb

 

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