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Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004186#msg1004186
« on: October 01, 2012, 01:50:00 am »
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TTW: 15-16 turns

How to play: Try to draw as much as possible. Start shield chain as stated in God by God Breakdown. Make sure that at the end, you have 4 of every quanta, 6 :gravity, 14 :aether, and 3 usable catapults.

Combo:  + 3x + + 2x Then, catapult everything (with 3 catapults, the extra is to make sure you have 3 usable ones by the last card) for 69 + 69 + 69 = 207 shield bypassing damage.

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Akebono: Skip
Chaos Lord: Medium - Some PC - Chain ASAP
Dark Matter: Skip
Decay: Skip
Destiny: Very Easy - No PC slow start - Chain when your HP is low
Divine Glory: Skip
Dream Catcher: Medium - PC, but low damage - Chain when he plays discord
Elidnis: Easy - No PC but watch your poison counters - Chain when poison reaches 3 or at low HP
Eternal Phoenix: Skip
Ferox: Medium - No PC Fast Rush - Chain at low HP, but that's probably as fast as you can as well, since Ferox rushes like a boss
Fire Queen: Medium - No PC - Chain >40 HP, Fire Lances are annoying
Gemini: Skip
Graviton: Skip
Hecate: Hard - Start Chain ASAP
Hermes: Skip
Incarnate: Easy - No PC - Chain at low HP
Jezebel: Skip
Lionheart: Very Easy - No PC slow start - Chain when your HP is low
Miracle: Easy - No PC but may get a fast start - Chain when your HP is low
Morte: Skip
Neptune: Easy - No PC - Chain at ~40 HP
Obliterator: Hard - Quit if he gets an early pulvy, if it's late, play a lot of hourglasses - Chain at low HP
Octane: Skip
Osiris: Hard - He likes throwing stuff, and SoF is annoying - Chain ASAP
Paradox: Easy - No PC but he's pretty fast - Chain at low HP
Rainbow: Skip
Scorpio:Skip
Seism: Skip or Pray to Zanzarino for no EQs
Serket: Medium -  Quit if poison >5 - Chain as fast as possible
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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004194#msg1004194
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2012, 02:34:34 am »
Awesome, I love you you made the 200 catapult damage independent of the upgraded doll! +Rep
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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004196#msg1004196
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2012, 02:39:53 am »
Nice job UnderneathTheLens, i like it.
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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004198#msg1004198
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2012, 02:42:31 am »
On a second thought,...why not using 1 chimera and some like 2 catapult(1 to use and another for security)?
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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004204#msg1004204
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2012, 03:06:14 am »
On a second thought,...why not using 1 chimera and some like 2 catapult(1 to use and another for security)?
No.
1) Catapult damage is 100*HP/(100+HP), it can't reach 100 damage if it isn't frozen (damage*1.5)
2) PU Chimera generates a new Chimera with the same stats, but the old one disappears.
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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004205#msg1004205
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2012, 03:07:54 am »
On a second thought,...why not using 1 chimera and some like 2 catapult(1 to use and another for security)?
No.
1) Catapult damage is 100*HP/(100+HP), it can't reach 100 damage if it isn't frozen (damage*1.5)
2) PU Chimera generates a new Chimera with the same stats, but the old one disappears.
You freeze the chimera
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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004206#msg1004206
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2012, 03:10:15 am »
On a second thought,...why not using 1 chimera and some like 2 catapult(1 to use and another for security)?
No.
1) Catapult damage is 100*HP/(100+HP), it can't reach 100 damage if it isn't frozen (damage*1.5)
2) PU Chimera generates a new Chimera with the same stats, but the old one disappears.
You freeze the chimera
Damage isn't linear.

A single 100hp creature does 50 damage. A frozen 100hp creature does 75.
Two 50hp creatures do 68 damage. Two frozen creatures do 102

It is impossible to fling one creature and have it deal 200 damage in one blow (the max is 150, and that requires hp to be infinite).

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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004208#msg1004208
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2012, 03:10:33 am »
On a second thought,...why not using 1 chimera and some like 2 catapult(1 to use and another for security)?
No.
1) Catapult damage is 100*HP/(100+HP), it can't reach 100 damage if it isn't frozen (damage*1.5)
2) PU Chimera generates a new Chimera with the same stats, but the old one disappears.
You freeze the chimera
To deal 100 damage with a frozen creature, you need a 200 HP creature and that's pretty hard to make.
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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004210#msg1004210
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 03:17:32 am »
I mean something like that
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Flying titan 7/50 + 2BB = 7/90 + 2 PU= 21/270 + chimera+ frozen + launch
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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004213#msg1004213
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2012, 03:22:08 am »
I mean something like that
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Flying titan 7/50 + 2BB = 7/90 + 2 PU= 21/270 + chimera+ frozen + launch
You don't know what an asymptote is, do you? A frozen 270 HP creature deals between 109 and 110 damage.

Get a calculator if you want to, the total damage is 100*HP/(100+HP), multiply it by 1.5 if the creature is frozen
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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004214#msg1004214
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2012, 03:25:58 am »
Seems people ignore my posts.

A 270hp creature does 73 damage. A frozen 270hp creature does 110.
3 90 hp creatures does 144 damage. 3 frozen 90hp creatures does 216.

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Re: Flying Titans [Fully Unupped][FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43804.msg1004216#msg1004216
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2012, 03:28:37 am »
Well, isn't this awesome? Now you can play FG with only a rare and no up.
And so, recommend people to get Titan as their rare reward.
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