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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg497476#msg497476
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2012, 03:21:05 am »
I agree. This is not grabbix. You are packing too many creatures without a good quanta balance. try it out in trainer see whether you can change a few cards. very prone to bad draws for now, not to mention there will be a lot of unused cards in your hand
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg497500#msg497500
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2012, 04:27:47 am »
Someone do a TTW study :P
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg497508#msg497508
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2012, 05:18:52 am »
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 Creamation on what? There is no zero-cost creature.
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg497639#msg497639
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2012, 01:30:33 pm »
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Creamation on what? There is no zero-cost creature.
And no  :fire mark for minor phoenix cremation.
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg501273#msg501273
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2012, 07:12:22 am »
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg501286#msg501286
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2012, 09:44:47 am »
Spoiler for vs AI3:
Player
Wins: 16
Winrate: 16 %
Average TTW: 12.75
EMs: 1
EM rate: 6.25 %

Computer
Wins: 84
Winrate: 84 %
Average TTW: 13.607142857142858
EMs: 15
EM rate: 17.857142857142858 %
Spoiler for vs AI2:
Player
Wins: 16
Winrate: 16 %
Average TTW: 11.4375
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

Computer
Wins: 84
Winrate: 84 %
Average TTW: 13.726190476190476
EMs: 11
EM rate: 13.095238095238095 %
Spoiler for vs AI1:
Player
Wins: 20
Winrate: 20 %
Average TTW: 11.35
EMs: 1
EM rate: 5 %

Computer
Wins: 80
Winrate: 80 %
Average TTW: 14.5625
EMs: 14
EM rate: 17.5 %
Spoiler for vs AI0:
Player
Wins: 38
Winrate: 38 %
Average TTW: 10.105263157894736
EMs: 4
EM rate: 10.526315789473685 %

Computer
Wins: 62
Winrate: 62 %
Average TTW: 14.370967741935484
EMs: 18
EM rate: 29.032258064516128 %
Something is terribly wrong when a fully upped deck fails to pass the tutorial.
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg502857#msg502857
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 09:13:41 pm »
Let's play 6 TUs, 6 Phase Dragons, 6 DimShields, 6 Immortals, and 6 SoW, fully upped. With an :aether mark.

That's about the same quanta balance as you have here.
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg502860#msg502860
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2012, 09:21:38 pm »
Quote from: Wizy on May 20, 2012, 09:44:47 am
Spoiler for vs AI3:
Player
Wins: 16
Winrate: 16 %
Average TTW: 12.75
EMs: 1
EM rate: 6.25 %

Computer
Wins: 84
Winrate: 84 %
Average TTW: 13.607142857142858
EMs: 15
EM rate: 17.857142857142858 %
Spoiler for vs AI2:
Player
Wins: 16
Winrate: 16 %
Average TTW: 11.4375
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

Computer
Wins: 84
Winrate: 84 %
Average TTW: 13.726190476190476
EMs: 11
EM rate: 13.095238095238095 %
Spoiler for vs AI1:
Player
Wins: 20
Winrate: 20 %
Average TTW: 11.35
EMs: 1
EM rate: 5 %

Computer
Wins: 80
Winrate: 80 %
Average TTW: 14.5625
EMs: 14
EM rate: 17.5 %
Spoiler for vs AI0:
Player
Wins: 38
Winrate: 38 %
Average TTW: 10.105263157894736
EMs: 4
EM rate: 10.526315789473685 %

Computer
Wins: 62
Winrate: 62 %
Average TTW: 14.370967741935484
EMs: 18
EM rate: 29.032258064516128 %
Something is terribly wrong when a fully upped deck fails to pass the tutorial.

Other than the obvious problems with cremation sources, Ai won't cremate pheonixes, so those 16% wins are from double nova, as well as a lycan then a cremation.  A 3 card combo to start any damage at all, with only 5 of those cards in your deck.  Most ai can outrush that.
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg502864#msg502864
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 09:25:32 pm »
Change to mark of fire.  Take out some graboids.  Fire towers instead of novas.  Replace at least 2 of the graboids with fire towers as well.  Strip down other creatures and replace them with fire creatures.  This is a start.  Now you have a grabbix.
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg502934#msg502934
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2012, 12:08:58 am »
Quote from: regen2k9 on May 23, 2012, 09:25:32 pm
Change to mark of fire.  Take out some graboids.  Fire towers instead of novas.  Replace at least 2 of the graboids with fire towers as well.  Strip down other creatures and replace them with fire creatures.  This is a start.  Now you have a grabbix.

grabbix?? I think it looks more like fire immorush already
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg502935#msg502935
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2012, 12:14:49 am »
Quote from: glennfoo on May 24, 2012, 12:08:58 am
Quote from: regen2k9 on May 23, 2012, 09:25:32 pm
Change to mark of fire.  Take out some graboids.  Fire towers instead of novas.  Replace at least 2 of the graboids with fire towers as well.  Strip down other creatures and replace them with fire creatures.  This is a start.  Now you have a grabbix.

grabbix?? I think it looks more like fire immorush already

Yeah, he really needs mark of earth + immofodder for grabbix.  I misstated that.  If he makes the changes I said he'll have a functioning immorush.  Then again, any deck with graboid + phoenix + immo (arguably mark of earth) is really a type of grabbix.
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Re: Ascended Grabbix 1.30 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38704.msg509001#msg509001
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2012, 01:58:41 pm »
You really call it Grabbix?
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