.......... And slightly faster!

[venumuse]

the thing is i have tryed it fully uped and i don't really like it muuch
 

[Gocubbies1212]

i will need to test this...  i already use: The Fastest Speedbow Eva! and i'll be able to compare them easilly...  i'll post results later     

is the top deck faster?  or the bottom one?

[jmdt]

i will need to test this...  i already use: The Fastest Speedbow Eva! and i'll be able to compare them easilly...  i'll post results later     

is the top deck faster?  or the bottom one?

The top one is.  From my very limited testing it is a smidge faster, but is also less consistant.  I'l have to do a ttw on this deck for a true comparison.

[Gocubbies1212]

from my 3 tests before bedd and my 25 tests this morning, this deck IS faster than The Fastest Speedbow Eva!

usually The Fastest Speedbow Eva! took about 5 turns whereas this deck took 4-5 turns.  i absolutely love this deck.  im switching decks as i write this.  its slightly faster but it is faster.  (note:  my calculations may be off i didn't feel like averaging the ttw i just took the one that finished a game the fastest)
great deck.  +1 karma

[$$$man]

from my 3 tests before bedd and my 25 tests this morning, this deck IS faster than The Fastest Speedbow Eva!

usually The Fastest Speedbow Eva! took about 5 turns whereas this deck took 2-5 turns.  i absolutely love this deck.  im switching decks as i write this.

Are y0u seriouz

[$$$man]

What draw could this possible have that would in 2 turns?

[hrmmm]

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its slightly faster but it is faster.  (note:  my calculations may be off i didn't feel like averaging the ttw i just took the one that finished a game the fastest)
great deck.  +1 karma

1. i did that allready with 50 test games (and yes i did the ttw calulation)

i run 50 testgames against ai and your first deck reached an avg. ttw of 5.840.
all detail to the stats you will find here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8813.msg182396#msg182396).
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2. be cautious with statements like "it IS faster" after 20-30 games. 50 testgames can vari alot (up to 0.5+ turn) depending on your ai3 oppnent and your drawing luck.
3. anyways - i agree so far. this decks seems faster then "The Fastest Speedbow Eva!"
im going now for 200 test games and will post them if im finish.

[hrmmm]

sry for the double post.

i added a 200 test series in Win Time Study - Pro Stats for Pro Grinders. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11935.msg187093#msg187093)
the avg ttw (6.05) i posted there is counting the ttw from losses aswell.

if i take the losses out of the statistic, like we did in the first ttw study, i get a avg. ttw of 5.905.
posted in the Turns to win study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8813.msg187122#msg187122).

so its pretty the same speed like jmdts Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.html) (5.955 ttw).

unfortunally you changed your deck on the first post. i tested this version:

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6rk 6u1 6u1 6u1 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 713 747 747 77g 7ae 7ae 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7gm 7jr 7qb 80gbut your new version seems faster. the pregocs can take out some bad draws like only 1 snova.

[PoLdeR]

sry for the double post.

i added a 200 test series in Win Time Study - Pro Stats for Pro Grinders. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11935.msg187093#msg187093)
the avg ttw (6.05) i posted there is counting the ttw from losses aswell.

if i take the losses out of the statistic, like we did in the first ttw study, i get a avg. ttw of 5.905.
posted in the Turns to win study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8813.msg187122#msg187122).

so its pretty the same speed like jmdts Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.html) (5.955 ttw).

unfortunally you changed your deck on the first post. i tested this version:

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6rk 6u1 6u1 6u1 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 713 747 747 77g 7ae 7ae 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7gm 7jr 7qb 80gbut your new version seems faster. the pregocs can take out some bad draws like only 1 snova.

I did 100 games on the current version.. mebbe i was unlucky by winning the long game if you know what i mean ^^, but it has

wins 98, loss 2, ttw 6.01
turns | wins
4 | 10
5 | 33
6 | 28
7 | 14
8 | 8
9 | 1
10 | 1
11 | 2
12 | 0
13 | 1 (not catching a pillar the first 18 cards)

it is obvious that all games above 8 turns are extremely unlucky draws and the deck is overal hitting 3,4,5,6,7 very consistently. Apparantly this deck cannot handle them. If you would take those out you get a ttw of 5.63

[Gocubbies1212]

for pvp, could i replace the sword with Vampire Dagger and replace both werewolves with 2 explosions?

( for the top deck )

[Deedle]

What if you swapped out the Werwolves and long sword for 3x chaos power and 1x Vampire Dagger?
That would be useful for pegasus and just generally buffing things plus the dagger would give it a small EM rate.

Keep a werewolf or 2 imo, but the vamp dagger over the long sword would be much better,