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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1053438#msg1053438
« Reply #456 on: March 23, 2013, 12:28:34 pm »
The prizes should be greater

The prizes are high enough already, at least for finalists since you get a nymph(not grindable) or a mark(rarest card).
I still think that the gap between second and third place is to big, but I have already mentioned that. And to change the prizes I think we have to contact Zanzarino not sure though.
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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1053441#msg1053441
« Reply #457 on: March 23, 2013, 12:35:29 pm »
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I agree, but the total prizes are enough already. Don't know how that could be changed...

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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1053446#msg1053446
« Reply #458 on: March 23, 2013, 12:48:01 pm »
Personally, I think it is only deserving for 1st and 2nd to receive the mark/nymphs. If anything, to raise the prizes, a shard code for 3rd and 4th, 5th, 6th receiving the usual electrum reward.

But let us not forget that until recently we only had 1st, 2nd, and 3rd prize, with 1st being 5k and the only one with a nymph, so I guess it's quite better than what we had last. I'm satisfied with it.

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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1053597#msg1053597
« Reply #459 on: March 23, 2013, 08:27:26 pm »
no no no no. No more prizes for tournaments before leagues get a buff.


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Also, with the new rules about submitting your deck after every match, what happens if a player loses that deck code? Is there an established penalty in place? What happens if that rule isn't followed and the two continue to play regardless?

That problem that occur with me wasn't the lack of rules, it was the lack of precedent on what to do.
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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1054059#msg1054059
« Reply #460 on: March 25, 2013, 08:00:46 am »
Personally, I think it is only deserving for 1st and 2nd to receive the mark/nymphs. If anything, to raise the prizes, a shard code for 3rd and 4th, 5th, 6th receiving the usual electrum reward.

But let us not forget that until recently we only had 1st, 2nd, and 3rd prize, with 1st being 5k and the only one with a nymph, so I guess it's quite better than what we had last. I'm satisfied with it.
Lets not forget that that was at the same time we had 2 tourneys a week. + if you come 3 there is 50% chance you have meet and won to the same players in the semis, final and bronze match, still 1 gets nymph/mark and electrum the other gain less electrum and no nymph/mark.
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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1056886#msg1056886
« Reply #461 on: April 04, 2013, 06:42:03 am »
I don't agree with removing the thread for the tourney in the past, as all that happens is now the people who looked before have the knowledge and everyone else doesn't.
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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1057355#msg1057355
« Reply #462 on: April 05, 2013, 06:47:42 pm »
I don't agree with removing the thread for the tourney in the past, as all that happens is now the people who looked before have the knowledge and everyone else doesn't.

I'll second Onizuka's comment - why remove past tourney threads?  Is it trying to keep players from being able to rewind back and use prior rulings as precedent to compare with new/current rulings?  If so, shame shame shame.  If not, then what is the reason?
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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1057359#msg1057359
« Reply #463 on: April 05, 2013, 06:56:10 pm »
I don't agree with removing the thread for the tourney in the past, as all that happens is now the people who looked before have the knowledge and everyone else doesn't.

I'll second Onizuka's comment - why remove past tourney threads?  Is it trying to keep players from being able to rewind back and use prior rulings as precedent to compare with new/current rulings?  If so, shame shame shame.  If not, then what is the reason?

The reason would be to prevent people from copying the same decks that won the last time the tournament occurred, I would assume. 

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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1057362#msg1057362
« Reply #464 on: April 05, 2013, 07:06:23 pm »
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I don't agree with removing the thread for the tourney in the past, as all that happens is now the people who looked before have the knowledge and everyone else doesn't.

I'll second Onizuka's comment - why remove past tourney threads?  Is it trying to keep players from being able to rewind back and use prior rulings as precedent to compare with new/current rulings?  If so, shame shame shame.  If not, then what is the reason?

The reason would be to prevent people from copying the same decks that won the last time the tournament occurred, I would assume.

A valid reason, however it appears that only specific tourneys have had that done, and I am not seeing where that same tourney is schedule to be re-done again...  Are we sure it wasn't because that thread had a tourney ruling in it?
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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1063030#msg1063030
« Reply #465 on: April 23, 2013, 08:53:00 am »
Now that the shards are rebalanced, I think it is only fair to unban them from tournaments. Why do I tink they should be unbanned specificely for tournaments? Well, I asked if they could unban them in War... but they said they wanted to see their effect on the meta before unbanning them. Tournaments are the perfect opportunity to test this. That is why I think they should be unbanned in tournaments
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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1063444#msg1063444
« Reply #466 on: April 24, 2013, 06:23:54 pm »
They were tested in League, which is generally a better place to test metagame things. However, we -could- design a few tournaments with War rules + Shards. The problem is that War is very long and tournaments aren't. We'd need many, many tourneys to match up to that and see all the nuances. Still, a possibility.
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Re: Tournament Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1063462#msg1063462
« Reply #467 on: April 24, 2013, 07:58:03 pm »
The problem is that War is very long and tournaments aren't. We'd need many, many tourneys to match up to that and see all the nuances. Still, a possibility.
What is the alternative? not testing them and forever ban them? Even if it it takes a lot of tournies, it is still worth it right?
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