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Try antagon's PVP graboid rainbow
It's not as fast as the other Ai3 grinders but wins much more consistently. Can probably also farm bronze league (but I prefer Ai3).
What he said.   The deck rocks.  Drop it in for your arena deck ftw too!  It farms bronze like no ones business.

I have most of my collection thanks to that deck.  Works ok in silver.  depends on the day.

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Rainbow Decks / Re: Golden Nymph Speedbow [LF>better name]
« on: November 20, 2011, 01:08:48 am »
I just played with this on the trainer.  It is fun.  4 better than 3 for sure.

So... 3 golden nymphs to go for me!

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The Arena / Re: YOUR arena farmer?
« on: November 14, 2011, 01:31:55 am »
With the recent wave of new shards, it seems gringing bronze and silver has become VERY popular.  Notice the payoffs for them are very low.  (5 and 10 for EM wins)

Are you sure? Silver is EXTREMELY profitable. 100 :electrum for EM, not 10.
It was low for a few days, just started to spark back up. atm it's EM==50.


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The Arena / Re: YOUR arena farmer?
« on: November 13, 2011, 06:07:56 pm »
With the recent wave of new shards, it seems gringing bronze and silver has become VERY popular.  Notice the payoffs for them are very low.  (5 and 10 for EM wins)


I use speedbow with much fun in bronze.  (unupped is cheap and can be made easily before all the quests are over) Unupped == -2 arsnic +2 Poision, -blessing +quantum pillar.  Origionaly grinding Ai3 and Bronze i was using Shrieker Rush, upped the Graboids and was upset that walls could stop me.  The speedbow was a pvp deck, that happens to do well vs bronze.  the 2 lightnings, 2 defags (mine has 1 upped), and fog shields cause enough disruption to most decks to sneek in with fast increasing dmg.  Stinks vs ppl dropping 3 of the new purple shards tho...
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And for silver/gold/platnum ( aprox 60%/40%/20% win rates) i use a Time Bow variant.  I have been upping it as i go, and swapped an anubis in for the prcognition, dropped in the nymph i got.  There is room to swap a few cards in and out based on what you have.  (the creature with freeze was in here for a while kicking butt too)
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General Discussion / Re: Request a Tool!
« on: October 22, 2011, 07:32:00 pm »
Very basic thing : a spreadsheet for arena testing. Should include rare wons.
Working on an excel file. Anyone know how to upload it?
Best way, i think anyway, is get a google account, and use the documents/spreadsheats feature.
Then you can post the file (open office version, google converts it no probs on simple stuff like this) and make it public.  drop a link in the forums and wala.  PLUS someone will most likely make a fancy version of it and pass it back to you. 

Crowdsourcing just happens.



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General Discussion / Re: What's the best way to find an eternity?
« on: October 22, 2011, 07:28:58 pm »
Umm u can get a enternty from AI3. (I Thinnk not sure.)  ^-^
True, you can win an eternity in ai3.  But you have to play one of XX number of decks that have it.  idk random guess 1/30.  However in bronze, there are way more eternities played against you, better chance to get them on a normal spin.
Plus 6 in a row wins gets you the special spin.  Spin the whole 3 slots once, then you get three respins for each individual slot.  so good chances to get something you want.

speed poision is fun. very str8 forward.  i love playing it.  but the speed bow is nice bc it can deal with a number of threats that shut other speed decks down.  Hope, phase sheild, any shield for that matter.  creature swarm.....

i often  swap in mummies or poisions for the arsnics on speed bow in bronze.  the no rare ver is very nice.  it's how i started to really grind after trying most of the bronze decks out.


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General Discussion / Re: Request a Tool!
« on: October 22, 2011, 05:31:55 pm »
Decklist Holder.

"DeckLists" Button listed on game page.

It Pops up awindow with a flash box.

Flashbox would look 1/2 scaled down version of the Elements game window.

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*grabix...........*(e)*(c2c)*.###.###.###.###.###.###.*
*hope.............*(e)*(c2c)*.###.###.###.###.###.###.*
*poision..........*(e)*(c2c)*.###.###.###.###.###.###.*
*pvptest.........*(e)*(c2c)*.###.###.###.###.###.###.*
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* (donate)(NewDeck)(El_Serv)(test_serve)(Forum) (Profile)
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Left window: deck names.  One color for unupped, 1 color if it has an upped card.. like white and red or something.
(e) = edit this deck button.  (opens same mini window as in elements for import/export, 1 more field, http link.)
(c2c) = coppy to clipboard button (adds deck list to CB)
right window: deck code
(Donate) = Donate to elements link button
(NewDeck) = new deck button. to add a new deck to the list button
(El_Serv) = Elements active server link button
(test_serv) = elements test server link button
(forum) = link to the elements forum button
(chat) = lin to the elements chat button
(profile) = to edit the profile of the deckholder tool, to link it to the db somewhere. or import/export it's db to a clip board.


ideas for the db can be interface the forum. login and hold a PM from the user to the user that has the deck info in it.
Also, the DB can be a little more packed for this than the deck code, so crunching it down to a db file in txt would let player email it to each other, or post links on the forums to the "essential_new_player_ai3_decks.txt  off of google docks somewhere, or in a new forum button... idk.

just some ideas.  Awesome job on the toold so far!  Hope it's more fun than a pain for the work! Great game!  Love watghing it grow over time!


so what does anyonw think? Crazy? cool? sexy? lame?

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General Discussion / Re: What's the best way to find an eternity?
« on: October 22, 2011, 04:54:50 pm »
I think the best way to grind for any of the rare weapons is bronze league.  Cheaply one can take an ai3 deck and make a bronze league deck out of it.  try:

Grabix
Shrieker Rush
pvp speedbow (fav, fast, can beat grabix and shrieker)

I tried getting a FG deck together, but it's a pain.  If you want to look at the FG unuped decklist, and try and kill 1 each day.... or just build one of these decks.  they all play 75% or better vs bronze.  you get better cards from the spins in bronze than ai3.  Everyone you play will have a rare or two in it so you get a better chance of them in the normal spins.   Then when you kill the 6th guy in a row you get the special spin for rares.

In about...15 hrs of gameplay lously over a week and a half at ai3 i got:
2x eternity
discord
2x titan
7x owls eye
5x shards
2x vampire daggar
1x pulverizor
Miracle
8x the 'sorry no nymph for you here's 65g card... forget what it's called.
3x druids staf
4x arsnic
2x pharos

You wont hit six in a row off the bat every time.  dont worry when you loose 5-1 or 4-1 or 3-1... it happens.  but your getting better spins since you are playing decks that ppl throw all their good stuff in.  Not as good as gold/platnum, but vs ai3 grinding it's fast and fun to aquire cards, wins, gold, rares.

then when you have some wealth, and watching the spins isn't exciting anymore, go for false gods.

In both decks i happen to have the key for, just sub unupped cards where upped ones are.

SpeedBow.  Cheap uber fun, very fast, great to learn, awesome vs ai3, pvp, BRONZE LEAGUE.
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or: -poision -vamp dagger +2 arsnics.
Growing into the deck is fast, lots of things can be subbed around with and it can still be pretty successfull.


Shrieker Rush... just sub in the unupped where upped are.

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Grabix is all over the forums, dont have it.  BUT play bronze league and you'll quickly win most of the cards for it, since it is very popular.

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You also made it a lot worse by switching in Poisons instead of Arsenics.
...

Anyways, I'm glad you've found a deck that you enjoy playing with.
I started playing it w/o arsnics at first and it was great.  That was to show it was playable.  but with arsnics, i think it increases your overall win %% by 4-5%.

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Hi new players.

I have been playing for about 3 weeks, with 6500 skill points.  Like you, i have read all the "how to be uber/rich/whatever" stuff in the noob area.  Watched all the videos.  Grinded away with recommend decks, and gotten bored over and over.  So here's a little overview of what you have been told:

Pick your color, and adjust the deck as you play the first 10 games to get an AI3 grinding deck.
  • Grind Grind Grind Grind
  • Build HOPE/Antimatter
  • UberGrind Ubergrind Ubergrind
  • Win.
You might have even found  Current Arena Grinders (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.0.html) and gotten excited...then realized how much more you'd have to grind out with grabix.

You should have read Money Management (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27551.0.html) saying:
  • Rule of Thumb Number One: Never sell upgraded cards unless you have more than six copies, and never sell unupgraded cards unless you have over 12 copies total (unupped and upped).
  • Rule of Thumb Number Two: Never buy or upgrade cards unless it's necessary.
But elements gets boaring when you have limited options.   I played every grinder AI3 deck there has ever been listed on the forums.  The most fun, and overlooked deck is PVP Graboid Rainbow by Antagon.

The deck boasts some support cards that can teach those less than pro CCG players better mechanic usage early on. 
Defag / Fog Shield / freeze / Lightning / Poison/Arsnic.
The deck can be tweaked around more than mono/multi decks to accommodate any fun rares you find.

All in all i reccomend this deck to anyone from new to noob to not-quite-yet-running-rare/upped-decks.  Oh and it works greatin pvp1 and pvp2 unupped.

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For giggles: This is what i've upgraded too...I had the Elite Graboids from running Shrieker rush and Grabix forever. Like i said, with this many support cards, less "Awww Hell another XXXCARDXXX that compleatly stops me" moments, more fun!!!!

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Enjoy fellow new players with little to no wealth yet!  Enjoy PVP1/2 Grinding AI3 and Arena Bronz success with the same deck!

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General Discussion / Re: Lobotomizer
« on: August 09, 2011, 03:48:40 pm »
but where do you think i would get the lobotomizer the fastest?
I have 1. but i've found using this deck in arena seems to give me good luck and pulls threw to the special spin more often then grabix.  I started completely unupped and using 1 poison and 1 Arsenic i found to start.  I forget where i saw it... on a video here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Dragoon1140#p/c/A7728B154AEDEF93/5/F-Har5px1Tg (http://www.youtube.com/user/Dragoon1140#p/c/A7728B154AEDEF93/5/F-Har5px1Tg)

Works well, and i found was more fun to play than shrieker rush / pheonic red / aether dragonshield / grabix.  Mainly because it's a pvp deck and has Defag, fog shield, lighting, momentum.  so those frustrating moments get countered and i'm overall more satisfied on wins and losses on more games than with the other low level decks.  I'm at 6500 skill points at the moment.  So maybe a smart noob's perspective will help you enjoy.  I'm loving this deck in arena so much.....

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edit: i'm running 85% vs bronze league atm, and have gotten 6 rare spins (4/6) including a lobotomizer, and found 2 while playing arena games.  This i believe is the fastest way to farm rares at the low levels.

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Or maybe my first 4 months in playing was pure bad luck. But 3 last two weeks...
I'd love to see what the oracle study will show.
3.24% Win rate atm.
Estimately, if the Purple Nymph bug hasn't been fixed, it should be 3.17%
IDK what the purple nymph bug is, but i got a friend of mine to start an account, and he got one on the second oracle spin.

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