Spell countering Permanent

[moomoose]

when something has been done before, its less about "mine!" and more about "this has been done before, this isnt much different, why is this taking up one of the 18 slots in level 1 polls, zanz has already seen the suggestion, he is clearly capable of changing the element or adjusting the cost slightly or whatever, so whats the point of trying to push it through the polls again?"

and jy, i didnt say you had to scrap it, i said scrap it or drastically redesign it to be a novel mechanic.  and then jenkar essentially stated the same thing.  the cia forum has been around for a few years, most of the obvious ideas have been submitted already.  dont take offense when an idea you came up with on your own has already been produced or a very similar one has, it happens to everyone.  ive had to scrap several cards due to this, im sure most people have.  if zanz, the creator of the game, has already seen the idea, it doesnt need to be presented for his consideration again, redundancy is not beneficial here.

[TheManuz]

when something has been done before, its less about "mine!" and more about "this has been done before, this isnt much different, why is this taking up one of the 18 slots in level 1 polls, zanz has already seen the suggestion, he is clearly capable of changing the element or adjusting the cost slightly or whatever, so whats the point of trying to push it through the polls again?"

and jy, i didnt say you had to scrap it, i said scrap it or drastically redesign it to be a novel mechanic.  and then jenkar essentially stated the same thing.  the cia forum has been around for a few years, most of the obvious ideas have been submitted already.  dont take offense when an idea you came up with on your own has already been produced or a very similar one has, it happens to everyone.  ive had to scrap several cards due to this, im sure most people have.  if zanz, the creator of the game, has already seen the idea, it doesnt need to be presented for his consideration again, redundancy is not beneficial here.

That's the point... we don't know what ideas are seen by Zanz or not.
I suppose Zanz give a look only at ideas in Armory, because i suppose he doesn't have the time to look at every section of CIA.
Unless Zanz explains to us what's his process in reviewing and selecting cards, we cannot expect him to know every card was produced.
I mean, even we don't know every card!

This is the reason because i say to push ideas until they reach Armory. Then an idea can be said "done" and there is no other reason to repropose it.

[OldTrees]

this idea has been posted before, the only one i remember off the top of my head is http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37365.0.html , which is still very recent.

But that's a spell.
Jyiber is proposing a permanent that cancels only 1 spell, not a creature, not a permanent.
It can be countered, for example by a creature with butterfly effect, or by a Pulverizer, or by a mutant with steal or destroy.

I saw the spell you linked, and didn't like it very much.
However i find this version of the idea simple but interesting.

Different implementation of the same core idea is not a sufficient difference.

If you like this implementation better then you should post a suggestion on the original thread.

(Off topic: Soul Pillar was Kael Hate's idea. I merely sent it through the polls for him with his permission.)

[moomoose]

"That's the point... we don't know what ideas are seen by Zanz or not.
I suppose Zanz give a look only at ideas in Armory, because i suppose he doesn't have the time to look at every section of CIA.
Unless Zanz explains to us what's his process in reviewing and selecting cards, we cannot expect him to know every card was produced.
I mean, even we don't know every card!

This is the reason because i say to push ideas until they reach Armory. Then an idea can be said "done" and there is no other reason to repropose it."

thats rather dumb, "well, his idea didnt make it to the armory, so ill post a near copy of it, and maybe itll have better luck now", great way to clog up the system with repetitive ideas.  if its been done before, leave it be and think up something new, at least some new twist to it to make it interesting in some other way. 

and zanz has implemented cards in levels 1 and 2 before, minotaur iirc was level 1 and voodoo doll level 2, so im guessing he scans them all from time to time.   rumor has it he saw the art for graviton behemoth in level 1 and thats how our newest artist got the job. 

[Jyiber]

I'm already beginning to love you guys. Well... in a crushing all my hopes and dreams kind of way. To tell you the truth, I don't care if I scrap it. I'm an all or nothing kind of guy. Just to clarify, I had no idea a card so similar had been suggested prior to my posting this. This was just one of many ideas I've had and I'm sure it's just the first in a long line of things you'll get destroy. Stayed tuned.

Sorry Anarook, liked your idea, too. Sent you a PM.

[TheManuz]

I made a wrong assumption thinking that Zanz doesn't check CIA Crucible and Forge.

[OldTrees]

I'm already beginning to love you guys. Well... in a crushing all my hopes and dreams kind of way. To tell you the truth, I don't care if I scrap it. I'm an all or nothing kind of guy.

By notifying you that this idea has been suggested before, we allow your genius to move on to your next idea.