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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1167818#msg1167818
« Reply #60 on: November 23, 2014, 02:36:45 am »
Thematically, explain the inclusion of a set of Flowers in each element as opposed to the inclusion of Trees in each element. What makes Flowers and Trees plausible in each element, outside of :life Life?
What doesn't make it plausible.
Please elaborate your implication, whatever it may be.

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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1167820#msg1167820
« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2014, 03:22:35 am »
The set implies that Graveyard can thematically be :earth Earth, Catapult can thematically be :air Air, and that Fog Shield can thematically be :water Water. My question, perhaps phrased in more detail, is: Explain your view of how the archetype of Flower can thematically and functionally suit every element. Explain what a Flower does and how that can be/is interpreted in the 12 suggested mechanics in relation to each element.

I imply that every card design at its core has an archetype associated with function(s)/purpose(s) which must therefore be interpreted into the mechanics of the game for an iteration to make the greatest thematic and mechanic sense.

This should always precede card balance.
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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1167826#msg1167826
« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2014, 04:09:19 am »
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Fog Shield can thematically be :water


i actually thought that fog shield was water when i was new to the game so yeah.
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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1167829#msg1167829
« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2014, 04:26:10 am »
when i s
Fog Shield can thematically be :water


i actually thought that fog shield was water when i was new to the game so yeah.
And what made you think that?
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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1167831#msg1167831
« Reply #64 on: November 23, 2014, 04:53:46 am »
when i s
Fog Shield can thematically be :water


i actually thought that fog shield was water when i was new to the game so yeah.
And what made you think that?

i just thought fog=cloud on the ground=water
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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1167835#msg1167835
« Reply #65 on: November 23, 2014, 05:43:34 am »
The set implies that Graveyard can thematically be :earth Earth, Catapult can thematically be :air Air, and that Fog Shield can thematically be :water Water. My question, perhaps phrased in more detail, is: Explain your view of how the archetype of Flower can thematically and functionally suit every element. Explain what a Flower does and how that can be/is interpreted in the 12 suggested mechanics in relation to each element.

I imply that every card design at its core has an archetype associated with function(s)/purpose(s) which must therefore be interpreted into the mechanics of the game for an iteration to make the greatest thematic and mechanic sense.

This should always precede card balance.
I'll reply simply. I have no explanation at the moment.
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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1169047#msg1169047
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2014, 11:15:06 pm »
I haven't forgotten about this thread.
I am going to update it, it is just hard to find time to update it with all that I am doing.
Going to make a flower for water now.

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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1170238#msg1170238
« Reply #67 on: December 08, 2014, 10:40:00 am »
I still think that every single flower is op. You need to balance this out quite a bit imo.
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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1170302#msg1170302
« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2014, 09:58:40 pm »
 :aether flower = forced combo with fractal. maybe make the effect that it halves spell costs and make it a permanent?
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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1170377#msg1170377
« Reply #69 on: December 09, 2014, 10:45:28 am »
:aether flower = forced combo with fractal.

Just because something synergizes really, really well with something doesn't mean it's a forced combo.
I feel fractal is overkill with these, anyway - A SoBra rush or a mitosis stallbreaker could see use with this just as easily.
After all, what does this have over psiontal? Damage? Why do we hear about psiontal more than fractal?

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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1170380#msg1170380
« Reply #70 on: December 09, 2014, 11:07:14 am »
:aether flower = forced combo with fractal.

Just because something synergizes really, really well with something doesn't mean it's a forced combo.
I feel fractal is overkill with these, anyway - A SoBra rush or a mitosis stallbreaker could see use with this just as easily.
After all, what does this have over psiontal? Damage? Why do we hear about psiontal more than fractal?

1. hmmm, a creature that you need alot of on the field in  :aether. what should i use to summon it?

2. i hardly ever hear about psiontal.
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Re: Card Set: Flowers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55914.msg1170383#msg1170383
« Reply #71 on: December 09, 2014, 11:22:29 am »
... Why do we hear more about psiontal more than reclusetal*
Stupid me.

And sure, you can use fractal, but again, why not just use psiontal?
If damage was a concern, we'd be hearing about reclusetal more than psiontal.
Fractal already deals extreme damage, so the pseudo-momentum is more important than even more damage.
Which is why I'd argue that colubimtal fails to psiontal.

Columbinetosis and SoBra rushes have uses for this that aren't outclassed by psions.
I'd run this in my SoBra silence, happily.
I don't run psions in my SoBra silence, because I need more damage.
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