Bird of Life | Bird of Life [Creature][Life]

[kvanh]

NAME: Bird of Life ELEMENT: Life COST: 4 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: + | + TEXT: Synergy : This creature gets +1 / +1 for each creature you have on field other than Bird of Life	NAME: Bird of Life ELEMENT: Life COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: + | + TEXT: Synergy : This creature gets +1 / +1 for each creature you have on field other than Bird of Life

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[dragtom]

does this include other birds?
I think it's more interesting if it doesnt.

[OdinVanguard]

Mechanics like this have come up many many times. They are notoriously tricky to balance when ATK scales this way.
Since the creature cap is 23 (and not hard to reach with a little effort) this thing could deal 20+ damage each.
Such a large range of damage output makes it very tough to balance.

At a cost of 3 , this card at the very least CANNOT count other birds or the fractal combo is too OP (like in the way a tac nuc is op compared to a stick of dynamite)

There are some alternatives. If it were limited to only counting creatures in the same row, it might work out. There was a similar (but reversed) mechanic concept that came up a while back (where it scaled for each copy in the same row). They managed to get its cost balanced reasonably well.
That may work out here.

At any rate, there needs to be counter balancing if the attack is allowed to go too high or else it needs to be limited / capped somehow. Otherwise it will either end up either UP or situationally OP.

[kvanh]

1st : The bird of life doesnt count to the creature count.
2nd : If there no creatures on the field this creature would die if not buffed.
3rd : Wrongly posted the image with 3 quanta for unupped.
4th : For this creature to do 20+ damage, it requires 20+ creatures other than 'Bird of Life'. It will be near the end of the game.
5th : If limited to the row, it would deal maximum 7 damage as Bird of Life is not counted.

[StreptoFire]

What about a weapon what deals X additional damage per creature on the field? Weapons are impossible to abuse with Fractal. And also it's harder to have more than one (you would need multiple animate weapon cards).

[iancudorinmarian]

What about a weapon what deals X additional damage per creature on the field? Weapons are impossible to abuse with Fractal. And also it's harder to have more than one (you would need multiple animate weapon cards).

Life Fahrenheit? Pls no.

[Chapuz]

This + afla + bonds is a very elegant way of winning.

[dworthy]

This would give some Life Hop decks a means of dealing damage beyond dragons or archangels. Very easy to abuse with Fractal or Aflatoxin.

[Zyardran]

how could you....sigh.... you forgot the title for it on unupped, might wanna change that, silly
other then that, make upped  +2/+2 make it stronger faster

[Ginyu]

No need to become personal...

+2|+2 makes this massively OP without another change. Don't do that.

There are some alternatives. If it were limited to only counting creatures in the same row, it might work out. There was a similar (but reversed) mechanic concept that came up a while back (where it scaled for each copy in the same row). They managed to get its cost balanced reasonably well.
That may work out here.

I like this suggestion.

[Basman-1453]

other then that, make upped  +2/+2 make it stronger faster

I hope you were kidding there, Disc. I really hope you were.
+2/+2 per other unit is going to be very, very OP without a powerful curb if you factor in that you can basically use one of this for Aflatoxin bait and another one or two for the killing blow, as Chapuz has mentioned.

BTW, I'm pondering of modifying Disc's idea; basically, it'll become ceil(sqrt(y))/ceil(sqrt(y)) (un)upped, where y is a function linear against the number of other creatures.
FYI, if y = 2x, my scheme makes it still UP (it becomes 7/7, tops).
Also, I'm pondering one thing: if an unupped Bird of Life and an upped Bird of Life are the sole creature on your side of the field, what will happen? Will both die off or stays alive at 1/1?

[iDaire]

Would make a better OTK than firecell.