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Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044306#msg1044306
« on: February 19, 2013, 09:43:00 pm »
NAME:
Burning Treant
ELEMENT:

COST:
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TYPE:
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ATK|HP:
3|4
TEXT:
Enters game burning.
Gains Adrenaline when you control an Emerald-, Purify when you control a Water Pillar or Pendulum.

NAME:
Burning Treant
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COST:
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TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|4
TEXT:
Enters game burning. Gains Adrenaline (Purify) when you control an Emerald(Water) Pillar or Pendulum.

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NOTES:
Trying to make Trios viable with the ressources given.

This is the card describtion I would have liked to use, but couldn't due to insufficient space:

Burning Treant enters the game burning. (suffers 1 damage after each attack)
If you control an Emerald Pillar or Pendulum, Burning Treant gains Adrenaline.
If you control a Water Pillar or Pendulum, Burning Treant gains Purify (removing the burning status).
Cumulative.

WIP.

Burning is poisened, basically. Just a red mark instead of a Death-coloured one. Also gets removed by Purify. If that is too complicated, this could also just become a "Poisened Treant" with Death quantum cost.

Not too sure about the wording, thus two options, but there might be a better one than both of them.

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« Last Edit: February 20, 2013, 05:24:46 pm by Marsu »

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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044308#msg1044308
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 09:44:47 pm »
Table's messed up a bit again. Fixing soon. Also, just decided to make this 1  :fire more expensive. Also changing that soon. Before that: Pizza. (Never strikethrough Pizza.)
Would love to hear your opinions. The wording probably also sucks, but with the space given.... I'm happy about any ideas.
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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044320#msg1044320
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 10:29:00 pm »
It's cool and all... But if it gains adrenaline it's pretty much dead...

That said, I like the trio boost. By emerald, do you mean pillar, dragon, both?
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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044325#msg1044325
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 10:32:02 pm »
this is a nice card, i love it
but i think it cost too much because you need a trio to make it viable

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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044328#msg1044328
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 10:35:44 pm »
It's cool and all... But if it gains adrenaline it's pretty much dead...

That said, I like the trio boost. By emerald, do you mean pillar, dragon, both?

Purify is supposed to heal the burn - so if you got both a Water Pillar and an Emerald Pillar out, it doesn't die. : o
I mean Emerald Pillar. In German, you can say "Emerald- or Water Pillar" and it means "Emerald Pillar or Water Pillar" (Note the - after Emerald). I was simply hoping the same would work in English too, lol.  Would love to hear how I can right it better (in the given space).

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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044336#msg1044336
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 10:46:44 pm »
It's cool and all... But if it gains adrenaline it's pretty much dead...

I like the idea, first of all. Yeah Ruta, with adrenaline it´s pretty much a maschine gun spark.  ;D What if I have both sorts of Pillars/Pends, I get both? Maybe use the endow mechanic to choose one type of pillar when playing? Or would that UP the card?
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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044337#msg1044337
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 10:48:02 pm »
I'm a bit confused. If both Pillars are under your control, your Burning Treant gains both bonuses.

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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044342#msg1044342
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2013, 11:02:57 pm »
Table issues: images say cost is 6 | 5, table says 5 | 4. Also, use the | bar for stats in the table, not /
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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044345#msg1044345
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2013, 11:09:16 pm »
Thanks Rutarete. Did you read what I wrote before btw? It seemed like you thought this could only obtain one of the bonuses (or Purify wouldn't heal the burning).
Would like to hear what you think of it when it has both.

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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044348#msg1044348
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2013, 11:15:40 pm »
Mmm. I'm interested in this 'Burning' effect. Would it have a progressive influence, as in every burn counter on a creature creates another burn counter?

Or simply one more spawns every turn. <better.idea

Both effects when pillars are played seems a bit much to me. Try just the Water one, or split it between upgraded and unupgraded: Life for unupped, Water for upped.
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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044352#msg1044352
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2013, 11:18:47 pm »
You'd actually need to have both Pillars/Pends though. Yes, it becomes a very strong card then, but it also requieres a Life/Fire/Water trio, I'd say that makes up for it.
If I was to nerf it, I'd rather increase cost once more, because the main goal is to fuel a trio.
The Burning part isn't innovative: It's poison. With a different colour. So one damage per attack. (Which would kill it in 1 turn if you have a Life Pillar, but no Water Pillar)

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Re: Burning Treant | Burning Treant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47045.msg1044364#msg1044364
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2013, 11:42:14 pm »
Funny because if you have only burning pillar, it'll instantly die.
And this card design is bad imo because it feels very forced combo.
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