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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095087#msg1095087
« Reply #492 on: August 29, 2013, 02:09:57 am »
Maybe Zanz can make a statistics page for the NPCs like he did for Card Usage Statistics.
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095517#msg1095517
« Reply #493 on: August 31, 2013, 08:05:58 pm »
Also, the multimarking in the bestiary doesn't work.
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095659#msg1095659
« Reply #494 on: September 01, 2013, 01:25:00 pm »
I can't find the "All quests" button in the trainer. Is it just me?
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095664#msg1095664
« Reply #495 on: September 01, 2013, 02:03:20 pm »
I can't find the "All quests" button in the trainer. Is it just me?
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095719#msg1095719
« Reply #496 on: September 07, 2013, 09:23:49 pm »
So, after 20 pages (by my settings) of comments, I finally ring in with my 2 :electrum.  Forget "Elements 1.4".  This proposed update completely changes how the game is played.  This is "Elements 2.0", clearly.  That's just me, and I'm sure no one agrees, least of all zanzarino.  Just wanted to get it out in the open instead of keeping it inside my little brain forever.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
To some extent I agree, while we are keeping our cards and such, this is a huge new change.

plus if we make it elements 2.0 we can re-release it on kong and get more badges and new players
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095813#msg1095813
« Reply #497 on: September 08, 2013, 09:43:28 am »
plus if we make it elements 2.0 we can re-release it on kong and get more badges and new players

please, please dont do that.
Looking at other games on kong (mainly sacred seasons), the game completely died by releasing a 2nd.
Half the community moves on, the other half stays at the first version. Both versions have too few players to be fun;
almost everybody stops playing.
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095814#msg1095814
« Reply #498 on: September 08, 2013, 10:09:28 am »
please, please dont do that.
Looking at other games on kong (mainly sacred seasons), the game completely died by releasing a 2nd.
Half the community moves on, the other half stays at the first version. Both versions have too few players to be fun;
almost everybody stops playing.

Exactly. Also, you exaggerate. PvP and Arena stay exactly like they are. Even AI only really change on the surface.

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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095930#msg1095930
« Reply #499 on: September 08, 2013, 10:25:36 pm »
Regardless of the version, both would come to these forums. Arena and PvP stay the same. Sure, it may split the kongregate community to some extent, but it would still generate significantly more buzz.
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095938#msg1095938
« Reply #500 on: September 08, 2013, 11:47:52 pm »
Regardless of the version, both would come to these forums. Arena and PvP stay the same. Sure, it may split the kongregate community to some extent, but it would still generate significantly more buzz.
Sure, it may split the kongregate community to some extent
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095939#msg1095939
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on a more serious note, the changes seem beneficial enough to everyone: therefore, i doubt playerbase will suffer.

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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095957#msg1095957
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i doubt playerbase will suffer.
it may split the kongregate community to some extent
Nice job cutting down my sentence until it said what you wanted in the last post.

May. As in it might. Or it might not. I don't think it will. And "to some extent". Meaning the splitting might not be permanent, major, or anything else. If friendships and communities shatter so easily then that's flat out depressing. And, I dont think it will hurt the playerbase at all since PVP and Arena is the same.

Is there anyone else playing old versions of magic on outdated sites and refusing to move to a new update? I highly doubt it. Any organized play would still be the same. At the absolute most, some people who choose not to upgrade to the better version of the game will be in a different chatroom but still use the same forums.

Considering I spend hardly any time in either current chatroom, nor do a majority of players, I'd be willing to bet this wont destroy a community. More likely, it will bring in a large number of new players, reintroduce people who have given up and dont care about 1.4 because of the slow, small updates of the past, and only strengthen both communities. The odds of it damaging the community are slim
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1095960#msg1095960
« Reply #503 on: September 09, 2013, 04:08:31 am »
Is there anyone else playing old versions of magic on outdated sites and refusing to move to a new update?
update?
Elements 2 =/= Elements update
Magic the Gathering update =/= Magic the Gathering 2

If they made Magic the Gathering 2, they would probably fail as badly as Elements 2 would.

Also, let me fix this last paragraph for ya.

Considering I spend hardly any time in either current chatroom, nor do a majority of players, I'd be willing to bet this will completely cut the new playerbase in half. More likely, it will bring in a large number of new players, reintroduce people who have given up and dont care about 1.4 until they realize how similar Elements 1 and 2 is and get bored, and only weaken both communities to the extent of Elements slowly dying. The odds of it damaging the community are extremely high
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