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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491342#msg491342
« Reply #216 on: May 02, 2012, 04:39:58 pm »
Updated OP with a few changes to shard of focus.
1) Play shard of focus
2) Play overdrive in the same turn

SoFo gets killed or with 15 HP?
Gets killed. It gains HP through an active ability, it can not be activated the turn it is summoned.
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491343#msg491343
« Reply #217 on: May 02, 2012, 04:40:48 pm »
From original post:
Currently in trainer.

New cards:
Psion

Balance:
The Oracle always grants the chosen card
Half-Blood HP reduced to 150
Firefly queen cost reduced to 6
Pharaoh stats increased to 4/9
Shard of focus HP reduced to 1
Shard of focus turns into a black hole when HP>45
Upgraded shard of focus cost increased to 6
Upgraded shard of focus generates upgraded black holes


Bug fix:
- Score and electrum gained are correctly calculated for an arena win (5 coins/score points were missing)
- Fractal and nightmare do not cause random bugs anymore (hopefully) when used by AI on an evading creature
- The opponent dissipation shield does not block weapons anymore if sanctuary is also in play
- Shard of focus turns into a black hole only when the accretion skill is activated

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491344#msg491344
« Reply #218 on: May 02, 2012, 04:41:13 pm »
I like the shard of focus change to start it with 1hp.  (partly because I suggested something very similar, I think something like 5hp base, when I was ranting about how it needed a nerf even before it was implemented in beta :p)  Having it generate upped black holes on the upped version is nice in that it's a small buff for gravity users but irrelevant to nongravity decks.

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491347#msg491347
« Reply #219 on: May 02, 2012, 04:42:34 pm »
seems a good nerf, but wont that mean more uses before it turns into a BH?

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491350#msg491350
« Reply #220 on: May 02, 2012, 04:44:50 pm »
seems a good nerf, but wont that mean more uses before it turns into a BH?
Nope.
1+15*3 => 46>45 => bh with new version
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491351#msg491351
« Reply #221 on: May 02, 2012, 04:45:29 pm »
seems a good nerf, but wont that mean more uses before it turns into a BH?
0/1 -> 0/16 -> 0/31 -> 0/46
Same uses. It is now easier to get one extra use by damaging it tho.
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491353#msg491353
« Reply #222 on: May 02, 2012, 04:45:46 pm »
seems a good nerf, but wont that mean more uses before it turns into a BH?

He reduced the HP needed to change into a Black Hole to 45.

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491354#msg491354
« Reply #223 on: May 02, 2012, 04:46:25 pm »
About the HB change: reduction of HP to 150 is excellent move to place it more in-between AI3 and FG.
There was very little reason to play against HBs, if you could hnadle them, then you could handle FGs too. So it is very good to separate the difficulties more.

In terms of thematic fit, I would suggest to also change the mark to 2x for them. I know that is a smaller impact, but it would be nice to have all perks change gradually from AI3 to FG, with the in-between step represented by the HB. We already have that in terms of upgraded cards, now HP so only the mark is missing to fit the theme.
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491370#msg491370
« Reply #224 on: May 02, 2012, 05:05:26 pm »
1) Play shard of focus
2) Play overdrive in the same turn

SoFo gets killed or with 15 HP?

SoFo gets killed since it starts with 1 hp.

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491417#msg491417
« Reply #225 on: May 02, 2012, 06:19:17 pm »
SoFo has 1hp starting out and costs more! Certainly makes focus shield a less viable combo!

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491502#msg491502
« Reply #226 on: May 02, 2012, 08:18:31 pm »
About the HB change: reduction of HP to 150 is excellent move to place it more in-between AI3 and FG.
There was very little reason to play against HBs, if you could hnadle them, then you could handle FGs too. So it is very good to separate the difficulties more.

In terms of thematic fit, I would suggest to also change the mark to 2x for them. I know that is a smaller impact, but it would be nice to have all perks change gradually from AI3 to FG, with the in-between step represented by the HB. We already have that in terms of upgraded cards, now HP so only the mark is missing to fit the theme.

Great proposal. I've always been asking myself why there is almost no difference between them.
150 HP and x2 Mark is fine imo.
Still I am not sure about the Double Draw and 30% (?) upped...incease the % for farmers or reduce the % upped cards for more balance between AI3 and AI5?
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg491514#msg491514
« Reply #227 on: May 02, 2012, 08:35:39 pm »
About the HB change: reduction of HP to 150 is excellent move to place it more in-between AI3 and FG.
There was very little reason to play against HBs, if you could hnadle them, then you could handle FGs too. So it is very good to separate the difficulties more.

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Great proposal. I've always been asking myself why there is almost no difference between them.
150 HP and x2 Mark is fine imo.
Still I am not sure about the Double Draw and 30% (?) upped...incease the % for farmers or reduce the % upped cards for more balance between AI3 and AI5?
Or make them give 2 spins unupped and 1 spin upped!

 

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